This episode of Soap Queen TV is pretty long at almost 13 minutes. But I promise, it’s worth it! In this video I show one of my favorite techniques for working with milk – the freeze method. It’s one of the techniques I teach in my Making Milk Soap from Scratch book. In this video, I create a 4 color in-the-pot swirl and use our silicone cube mold to show that you can get beautiful colors and designs with milk based soaps.
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To create this project you will need:
- 12.4 oz Milk (try our powdered Goat Milk)
- 10.8 oz Coconut Oil
- 10.8 oz Palm Oil
- 16.2 oz Pure Olive Oil
- 1.3 oz Sodium Lactate
- 5.3 oz Sodium Hydroxide
- 2.5 oz Sage & Lemongrass Fragrance Oil
- Sweet Almond Oil
- Electric Bubblegum Colorant
- Activated Charcoal
- Ultraviolet Blue
- Titanium Dioxide
- Silicone 9 Bar Cube Mold
Katie says
Will this swirling technique work for a loaf/log mold?
Kelsey says
Hi Katie!
Absolutely! Because the loaf mold is larger than the cavities, it will look slightly different, but still beautiful. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Kyla says
I can’t wait to try this! I would love to add an exfoliant like Pumice? Can I do this to the goat milk recipe and if so how much should I add and do you recommend a specific exfoliant for this recipe? Love all your Videos, Thanks again!!! Great work.
Kelsey says
Hi Kyla!
So glad you like the recipe! You can definitely add an exfoliant if you like. We recommend about 1 tsp. per pound of soap. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Scrub Up With Exfoliants: http://www.soapqueen.com/bramble-berry-news/scrub-exfoliants/
Ana says
Hi!
I’m wondering if you can use colour blocks for goats milk melt and pour?
Thank you:)
Kelsey says
Hi Ana!
Absolutely! Our color blocks work great in melt and pour. Simply shave off a couple pieces into your melted soap and mix until they’re incorporated. If there are unmelted pieces, you can pop your soap back in the microwave on 5-second bursts. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Goat Milk Melt and Pour Soap Base: https://www.brambleberry.com/Goat-Milk-Melt-And-Pour-P3184.aspx
Color Blocks for Melt and Pour: https://www.brambleberry.com/Color-Blocks-for-Melt-Pour–C340.aspx
Karen Oxenford-Melcher says
Hi! I watched this video and bought the book on making milk soap, then tried my hand using an almond milk I made from scratch using the method described in the book. I am very confident that the lye was fully dissolved and very confident in my measuring. The soap traced beautifully, and I put it in the freezer overnight.
Today when I unmolded and tested the soap, I got a lye zap! First time this has ever happened with my CP soap (although I usually do let my soap sit for a week in the mold before testing). I’m wondering if the very cold temps could have either prevented or slowed down the saponification process? Also wondering now if I should leave this in the mold in the refrigerator (or closet) for a few more days to see if it still zaps, or if I should just give up and rebatch it?
Kelsey says
Hi Karen!
Oh no! Do you mind if I ask what’s in your recipe? Also, how long did you stick blend your milk and oils?
Also, how long did you let it sit? Typically, it takes about 48 hours for almost all of the lye to saponify. I would recommend letting it sit a couple more days and testing it again.
Let me know and I’ll help you troubleshoot! 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Karen Oxenford-Melcher says
Hi Kelsey – GREAT NEWS! Patience is very much a virtue with this batch. I originally made it on Sat. (11/1) and tested and commented on Sun (24 hrs). I made the decision to take it out of the freezer and moved it to the refrigerator on Sun night.
On Wed (96 hrs), it still had some zap, but seemed to be less. Also, shooting the soap with my infrared thermometer showed that although my fridge is at 36F, the soap was still “cooking” at 48F.
I left it until today (180 hrs) and tested again (in multiple places through the loaf) – NO ZAP! I think the colder temperature just really slowed everything down. The best news is that the bars are a lovely, creamy ivory color all the way through – no scorching whatsoever.
I’ve cut the bars and put everything into the drying rack to sit for a few weeks, and I’ll definitely test the soap myself before giving it to anyone, but I think patience saved this batch.
If you are still interested, here is the recipe: 584g Olive Oil; 444g Coconut Oil; 442g Palm Oil; 80g Castor Oil. 225g Sodium Hydroxide dissolved in 528g Almond milk (made from fresh almonds and distilled water). Finished with 60g of BB Almond FO.
Added Lye to frozen Almond milk stirring constantly – took about 15 minutes to dissolve and was at 68F.
Added lye milk to oils (which were at 80F) and stick blended in pulses for 7-10 minutes to get to a medium trace. Molded in the BB 5lb loaf w/silicone liner.
Kelsey says
Hi Karen!
That’s awesome! Sounds like your soap just needed a couple days to continue to saponify. I’m glad to hear that. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Gevic S. Romero says
Hi! I found this site to be so great especially for those who are beginners in soap making. I have some concerns on using goats milk. I’m planning to make a soap using turmeric and neem after finding out that these really make up great benefits for the skin. I want it to have more moisturizing effect by incorporating goats milk in it. Would it be possible to add goats milk with these ingredients through HOT PROCESS as to lessen the time allotted for curing the soap? But if you have some suggestions on how to combine all these ingredients into one soap, I would be so much thankful for it! Hope you could help me out! Thanks and God Bless! 🙂
Kelsey says
Hi Gevic!
So glad you like the blog!
Hot process soap can be tricky because it’s likely the goat milk will scald.
However, some people like to add goat milk powder as an additive after the soap has cooked. I’d recommend about 1 tsp. per pound of soap. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Gevic S. Romero says
Thanks for the swift reply Ma’am. So glad to have found this site! 🙂 I’d like to ask some more question if u don’t mind.
1. Is it preferrable to use powdered neem leaves or the freshly blended one? Does the fresh leaves shorten the shelf life of the soap?
2. Does the 1 tsp powdered goats milk should be diluted first before putting into the mixture? If so, how much water is enough to dilute it?
3. If you were to choose the color for my turmeric neem soap, what would you choose, or do you prefer more the natural color of the combination?
4. Does peppermint with butterscotch fragrance work for this or do you have any suggestion for its fragrance.
Thank you so much Ma’am for the help. Crossing finger! 🙂
Kelsey says
Hi Gevic!
We haven’t worked with neem, so I’m not exactly sure! However, all natural ingredients will eventually turn brown in your soap, so powdered may be a better option. 🙂
Adding milk afterward may mean it won’t saponify, so I would actually recommend replacing your water with goat milk. It will discolor because of the scalding. Sorry about the confusing answer!
As for color and fragrance, that is totally up to you! You should add whatever you think would look and smell great. 🙂
Roslynne says
Hi. I hAve been trying to make goats milk soap with different success rates. Main problem is that it sets very quickly, about 3 minutes after combining lye and oils. I use 100% frozen fresh goats milk, any suggestions? Thanks
Kelsey says
Hi Roslynne!
Goat milk typically doesn’t accelerate trace. Do you mind if I ask what else you’re using in your recipe, including the fragrance oil? Also, what temperature are your oils?
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Sherry says
the colored soap is beautiful, but if I don’t want to use colors, what changes do I make in the recipe?
Amanda says
Hi Sherry!
You won’t need to change the recipe at all, other than skipping the colorants 🙂
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Sherry says
one more question. Is the sodium lactate optional? If it isn’t how do I adjust the recipe. I only have the sodium hydroxide.
Thanks!
Amanda says
Hi Sherry!
The sodium lactate is optional. It is added to the lye mixture in order to help the soap harden faster. If you want to omit it from the recipe, you can simply not add it. You do not need to change any of the other ingredients :).
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Sherry says
Thanks so much! I have everything I need. Can’t wait to make my first batch of soap!
Emmy says
I read through the comments and may have missed if it was addressed. Would I need to change anything if I did not want to add color? I want a simple GM soap and am not a huge fan of colors in my soap 🙂
Amanda says
Hi Emmy!
Nope, you would not need to change anything if you wanted to not use color. You can just bring your soap to trace, and pour! 🙂
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Jennifer says
Hi there,
Thank you for your video! I was wondering about the temps for the oil and the lye solution…why are the oils at 90 and the lye at 50? I thought they were suppose to be around the same temp? I am new to this and am just looking into a milk recipe. Thanks again!
Jennifer
Amanda says
Hi Jennifer!
Milk soap is a little different than making non-milk soap. You’re correct, usually you want the oils and lye to be close in temperature. With milk soap you want everything to be pretty cold to prevent scorching the milk, which is why we recommend having very cold lye and oils 🙂
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Tina Deniz says
Great soap making !!!
Can you please suggest an alternative to palm oil in this recipe,can I use shea butter or canola oil,
Thanks for your help,
Tina
Amanda says
Hi Tina!
Palm Oil helps give this bar a nice hardness. I would not recommend switching out the entire amount of Palm for Shea Butter, it would result in a bar that is very soft. I would recommend increasing the Olive, Coconut and adding a bit of Shea. Just make sure to re run your recipe through the lye calculator to ensure your soap sets up correctly 🙂
Lye Calculator:
https://www.brambleberry.com/Pages/Lye-Calculator.aspx
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
marie says
Hello!today I have gathered all the ingredients I need and I’m going to try making this soap but I’m not sure about some things.Could you please tell me the ideal temperature for oils and lye/milk before blending them and also I don’t have the Sodium Lactate and I’m using silicon molds so I’m afraid the soap will not come out easily.I was thinking of using salt but I don’t know if I can use the common salt I have in the kitchen or other and how and when to add it.Thanks so much for this video and all the great recipes and tips you are sharing with us,you’ve really helped me 🙂
Amanda says
Hi Marie!
I’m so happy to hear you are going to try this recipe :). If you do not have Sodium Lactate you could omit it from the recipe, but it will take a few extra days to harden in your mold. You can indeed use common salt from your kitchen! You can see this done in our Palm Free Vertical Twist Tutorial 🙂
Palm Free Vertical Twist Tutorial:
http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/palm-free-vertical-twist-tutorial/
For the temperatures of lye and oils, I recommend freezing your mile, like shown in the video. This will help prevent your lye from scortching your milk. I would recommend blending your milk/lye and oils at about 80-90 degrees 🙂
I hope this helps!
-Amanda
marie says
Thanks for the answer!The soap is done,everything went well!
Amanda says
Hi Marie!
Awesome, I’m so happy to hear that! If you get photos, I would love to see them on our Facebook page 🙂
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Katie says
If using table salt mixed with water instead of sodium lactate, do you deduct the amount of water used from the amount of milk used? For example, I am using 48oz of total oils and my recipe calls for 15.84 oz liquid (goat milk), should I deduct 3 oz of milk from the total liquid so I can use 3 tsp salt dissolved in 3 oz water? Or should I use the full amount of milk AND the extra 3oz water with the salt? Thanks in advance for your guidance!
Kelsey says
Hi Katie!
We recommend discounting the amount of milk you’re going to use, that way your soap won’t get too soft! So, deduct 3 oz. of milk and replace that with the salt water solution. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Katie says
Thanks so much for getting back to me so quickly! I am planning to make my first batch of goat milk soap tomorrow!
Lyndsey says
I made some GM soap yesterday and used your recommendations about keeping the gm/lye solution in an ice bath. My oils were around 85 degrees. When I added the gm/lye solution to the oils, it just sank to the bottom. When I blended, I had a hard time getting a smooth consistency it seemed grainy – I had to blend it to a thick trace to get a smooth consistency. I could not do a swirl, which was ok, but just wondered if you had an idea as to why it may have done that.
I used goat’s milk that I bought at the store – it has added vitamin A & D (goat’s milk that you would normally drink) but nothing else added. My gm/lye solution was cool to the touch – could it have been too cool?
Thanks!
LC says
I love this recipe, thank you. My question though is this, I have fresh goat’s milk and I am going to try this recipe, however I would like to know if I should boil the goat’s milk before freezing it to use it in my soap?
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Good morning, LC!
When using goat’s milk, we always suggest freezing it before adding it to your soap. You wouldn’t actually need to boil it at all! For more on making milk soap, you can check out this book that Anne-Marie wrote:
E-Book: Making Milk Soap from Scratch: https://www.brambleberry.com/E-Book-Making-Milk-Soap-from-Scratch-P5257.aspx
I hope this helps! Let us know if you have any other questions. =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
LC says
Thank you so much, I know that it is recommended to boil or scald fresh cow’s/goat’s milk before consuming, but yes of course one would not be consuming milk in soap, but I just wanted to be sure if it was recommended to kill any bacteria that may be in the fresh milk but of course I suppose the lye would take care of that.
Thank you very much becky
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi LC!
We are so glad that we could help you out. If you get any pictures of your soapy creations be sure to share them with us on Bramble Berry’s Facebook page. =)
Happy Soaping!
-Becky with Bramble Berry
https://www.facebook.com/BrambleBerry
Cheryl says
Love the tutorial and the soap is gorgeous. I made a batch tonight using fresh frozen goat milk, changed up the color’s a bit but it came out beautiful, I can’t wait to pop it out and see it and cut a couple. I am fairly new at cp soap making and learning as I go but I have learned sooooooo much from the your tutorials. Thank you, Big fan 🙂
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Cheryl!
We are super excited for you as well, and are holding our breath in anticipation for you to cut your soap! If you get any pictures, be sure to share them with us on Bramble Berry’s Facebook page. 🙂
Happy Soaping!
-Becky with Bramble Berry
https://www.facebook.com/BrambleBerry
Tracy says
Hi Anne-Marie,
In the video you say to measure the goat milk by volume and not weight. I’m a little confused I thought all ingredients in soap recipes had to be weighed including the water or milk or whatever liquid is used in the recipe. Can you tell me why volume versus weight. Thank you. Great video.
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Tracy!
What a great question! While we do say in soaping that you will want to go by weight (instead of volume), there are a few exceptions. In this case it is because this recipe calls for milk. When using the lye calculator, it goes by distilled water (which most recipes use) and it is actually more accurate to use volume when measuring other alternative liquids like beer or milks. I hope this helps! Let us know if you have any other additional questions. 🙂
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Cathey says
Hello Bramble Berry friends! I loved loved Loved the way this soap looked, so beautiful! I ordered the silicone cube mold and made my own goats milk recipe with it. Unfortunately, I forgot to add the sodium lactate! (argh!) So, needless to say, it was 3 weeks before I could get the soap out of the mold without ruining it, when I finally did, however it was beautiful and worth certainly worth the wait.
Thanks for your fine products and great customer service!
Kristen with Bramble Berry says
Sodium Lactate is definitely a silicone mold’s best friend! Glad to hear that it was worth the wait. Swing by our Facebook page and post a picture of it if you get the chance! =)
Kristen with Bramble Berry
https://www.facebook.com/BrambleBerry
Yolande says
Love the video. The cube goat milk soap is gorgeous. My question is can you do this recipe in the cubed CPOP soaping? I looked at your information on each cube mold, however, I didn’t see any written that you can place the silicon mold in the oven.
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Good morning, Yolande!
We are so excited that you like this recipe as much as we do and are excited for you to try it out. While technically you can use silicone that is rated for baking in CPOP soaping, there is an interesting thing that happens when you use silicone and a hot gel phase. The soap kind of ‘boils’ on the inside and because of the lack of breathability in the silicone molds, you get little air and water bubble pock marks on the entire outside of the loaf. If you use a normal wooden mold with freezer paper you will find the look of your soap turns out much better. You can learn more about CPOP soaping (with FAQ’s) here:
Hot Process Series: CPOP Swirls: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/hot-process-series-cpop-swirls/
I hope this helps! Don’t hesitate to ask if you have any other questions. 🙂
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Andrea Sayer says
Okay my daughter and I just tried this recipe using Fizzy Lemonade, Ultramarine Violet Oxide, Electric Bubble Gum, and Titanium Dioxide. We found that the Titanium Dioxide did not want to stay blended with the tablespoon of Almond Oil. I own the 25 square mold but only made the 9 batch because I wanted to be sure it would work for us. The Titanium Dioxide and the Fizzy Lemonade seemed to trace faster than the Bubble Gum and the Ultramarine Violet so our first few cube have more variation of color than the last few, but I think they will all still turn out nice. Just wondered if I was to mix the Titanium Dioxide with something besides oil. Will post photos in a few days then I will try to unmold at the end of the week.
Thank you
Andrea Sayer
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Good morning, Andrea!
Titanium Dioxide can be a finicky ingredient at points, but if we have found that if you use a little mini-mixer (https://www.brambleberry.com/Mini-White-Plastic-Mixer-P4721.aspx) it tends to blend much easier. If there is another lightweight fixed oil you’d like to use (other than the Sweet Almond Oil) to mix it, you can definitely try it out. Also, you can micronize titanium dioxide with a spice or coffee grinder and that typically helps it to disperse easier and reduce the presence of white speckles in the final soap.
We’ve done it with Sunflower and Olive Oil before as well. How much Titanium Dioxide are you using? Typically we like to do 1.5 teaspoons of it in 1.5 Tablespoons of oil for cold process.
Olive Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Olive-Oil-Pure-P5246.aspx
Sunflower Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Sunflower-Oil-P3208.aspx
I can’t wait to see how your soaps turn out — I’ll be keeping a watch out for them. =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
P.S. What fragrances did you use?
Roberta Bissonnette says
I am going to make milksoap today, I have condensed goat milk that needs to be mixed with = amounts of water. Is this going to be ok ?
Thanks for all of your wonderful work and videos!
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Roberta!
Typically, we use fresh goat’s milk in our milk soap recipes. I would definitely suggest checking the ingredients list on your goat milk to make sure there are no extra additives, preservatives or sugars in it that could cause your soap to overheat or act weird. If there are no extra additives and you do want to use it, I would definitely follow the directions (equal amounts of water to equal amounts condensed goat milk) and make a small test batch to make sure you like how it turns out in your soap. Keep us updated how it turns out! =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Kristi says
I love this tutorial!! The ice technique is a life saver! I have made one batch so far just using one colorant for a swirl. It was a green and the rest of the soap was nice and ivory looking. As soon as I was done pouring in the mold I put it in the fridge, within an hour, the green colorant had turned brown, but the rest of the soap is still ivory. I stuck it in the freezer for about 2 hours just to be sure, but I can’t figure out what went wrong! Did it get too warm? Any suggestions?
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Kristi!
Isn’t it so exciting to try a new technique in soapmaking? We can’t wait to see how your soaps turn out and if you get any pictures, be sure to share them with us on Bramble Berry’s Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/BrambleBerry
Some colorants do morph and change in cold process soap, so you will always want to make sure and read the individual product notes before using them in your batch. Was the green color one of Bramble Berry’s?
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Kristi says
Well turns out it was just the cold temp that turned the color. Once it was out of the fridge and warmed to room temp, it turned back to the beautiful green! Ha! I was so glad!
It was not a BrambleBerry color this time, I normally use BrambleBerry, but had this one from another vendor and decided to try it. I’m so happy it turned out! I’ll post a picture and share it on Facebook to show the great result! Thanks so much for your help!
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Kristi!
I am so glad that your color turned back to normal. Sometimes temperatures can change the look of your soap, and you’ll always want to check the individual product notes to make sure you aren’t surprised! I saw your soap on our Facebook page and just loved how it turned out. =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Christine says
Thank you, Becky. I already have them ordered and on their way 🙂
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Thank you so much for your business, Christine! Keep us updated on how they work for you. And, if you get any pictures of your products, we’d love to see how they turned out. You can share them with us on Bramble Berry’s Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/BrambleBerry
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Christine says
LeslieGail asked why use goat milk in soap.
I have psoriasis and that’s the whole reason I started making my own soaps. The milk really soothes the skin and keeps the outbreaks and itchies in check. Various members of my family have eczema and they agree.
I love love love looking at the pretty swirls and what not in bars of soap, but these artificial colorings react with sensitive skin (Clays are okay, hurrah!).
Becky with Bramble Berry says
We totally understand being sensitive to colorants (and fragrances) and that is why we have tried to provide as natural colorants as possible. If you haven’t had a chance to check out our new Brazilian clays, I think you’ll just love the natural colors:
Natural Brazilian Clay: https://www.brambleberry.com/Crude-Colored-Clay-P5496C48.aspx
Purple Brazilian Clay: https://www.brambleberry.com/Purple-Colored-Clay-P5497C48.aspx
Yellow Brazilian Clay: https://www.brambleberry.com/Gold-Colored-Clay-P5498C48.aspx
Pink Brazilian Clay: https://www.brambleberry.com/Light-Red-Colored-Clay-P5499C48.aspx
Dark Red Brazilian Clay: https://www.brambleberry.com/Dark-Red-Colored-Clay-P5500C48.aspx
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Scherry says
I do a LOT of milk soaping and this method with the frozen milk and ice bath is the only way I roll! I use double-fat, double-strength goat milk with no additional water and the milk/lye mixture is so thick that it looks like pudding when I add it to my oils. The first time the “pudding” mix sunk to the bottom of my oils in a glob I was horrified! Haha. I was sure it would never emulsify but it did and always does.
It’s a lot of work but makes for an unbelievable bar of soap. Oh, I also use lye micro beads which dissolve very well in my thick milk mixture.
Today I tried something new. I designed a baby soap for our “Foal” line. Lots of little Foals arriving this spring plus another little Filly in our own family! I wanted a very moisturizing goat milk and oat soap but did not want the oats themselves to be in the soap as they can irritate tender baby skin. So I made some oat milk (oat sludge would be more accurate!) by tying some rolled oats in a nylon stocking and soaking the stocking in boiled distilled water. I kept squeezing the stocking and extracting all the goodness of the oats without the fibrous husk part.
I froze the oat milk and used it right along with my frozen goat milk. This time I got much thicker pudding! But it’s all good. Everything came together as usual and my soap is abed in the curing room as I type this.
I also held back about 1/4 of the batter, added some oats I had powdered in my magic bullet, and also some Banana FO and yellow pigment.
Now the Mares, Stallions, and older Colts and Fillies can get smooth-scrubbed hides as well!
Peace & Happy Trails,
Scherry Clarke
AvieMare Body Care Products
Becky with Bramble Berry says
That sounds like such a lovely soap, and I bet it startled you the very first time you made it — I know I would be! We’ve always found that freezing your milk before you use it in any of your soaps makes it so much easier to work with. If you have any pictures of your soaps, we’d love to see how they turned out. You can share them with us on Bramble Berry’s Facebook page. =)
https://www.facebook.com/BrambleBerry
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Vicki says
Hi, I know someone just asked this, but I am still not clear on whether or not to include the sweet almond ( or olive oil) used to mix colorant in my lye calculator? If I understood correctly, if you are just using one tablespoon of oil/colorant mixture don’t bother but more than that ( say I was doing a 4 or more color swirl with each color mixed in 1T sweet almond or olive oil) then I should include that in my lye calculation??? For example: In the tutorial, There were 4 T sweet almond oil used ( approximately 2 oz) with probably at least 1oz or more of those oils used in the recipe to color the batter, was the sweet almond oil factored into the amount of lye used in this particular recipe?
Anne-Marie says
The key to answering this question is: will the addition of extra oils affect my superfat significantly. For me the term ‘significantly’ means more than 2%. And, for a recipe this size, 1 or 2 tablespoons is not even going to move the superfatting dial by 1%.
So, it depends on the size of the batch if you’d include it or not. The worst that happens is that you have a higher superfat than the recipe calls for if you don’t take it into account.
A higher superfat can lead to less lather and a shorter shelf life for your soap but anything under 10% is well within the soaping boundaries that I’m comfortable with. =)
Rochelle says
Hi! I loved this video! This is also something I’ve been dying to try. I have a question about the actual milk. When I wanted to make this in the past everything I saw said you need to use raw goat milk, which it turns out I have not been able to find searching pretty much every health food store in town. Your recipe does not say what specific milk is used in terms of raw or pasteurized?? I was able to find powered which I saw brambleberry sells but was not sure if either are pasteurized or raw, or if in either of these it even really matters??? Thanks for your help!!
Anne-Marie says
You can use whatever GM you can find – but just make sure there aren’t any extra additives like guar gum or sweeteners. It’s not the end of the world if there are but any extra additives can cause a problem in your soap.
I put an ad on Craigslist for raw GM when I need it but canned or powered will work just fine =)
Darlene says
Wow this is so beautiful…I can’t wait to try it. I just love GM soap. Great for the skin! I do have a question though….in my frenzy the past couple of weeks ordering goodies from you (and it has been just about weekly…LOL) I was looking at this recipe and my supplies. OMG. I don’t have sodium lactate. What do I do? I have made GM soap before with olive oil as an ingredient and it has been fine…I have a batch curing right now in fact. Also, I have the BB 12 cube silicone mold, how do I adjust recipe for this one please……thanks for your help Anne-Marie. I have learned so much from this site. Your customer service is TOP-NOTCH. The ladies are amazing and are ALWAYS so helpful when I call! Keep up he great work!
Anne-Marie says
The only reason you really need the sodium lactate is to help with the easy release of the mold. It’s perfectly fantastic soap without the sodium lactate but it takes an extra long (over a week probably?) time to release without it in the silicone cube mold.
Bramble Berry has the 9 and the 25 cavity silicone cube molds; might you have the 25 cavity one? You could just double the recipe if that’s the case and be a few cavities short. That would be fast and easy! =)
Darlene says
Hey Anne-Marie, thanks for the info. So its the GM that really makes it take so long to release from the silicone? I suppose if I decide to do this recipe …which I am def going to do….I will just have to leave it in the mold for a week!
I actually have the 12 Bar Square Mold….sorry….this one is 4 oz (of course you already know that)
Sherry says
Hi,
I am getting ready to make my first batch of goat’s milk soap. Are there any fragrance oils that are not recommended for using in milk soap?
Anne-Marie says
As long as they are fully tested in cold process soap and are safe to use, they will do great in GM soap. =) Remember, GM soap sometimes smells like urine or ammonia right after making it for 8-10 days. Don’t panic if this happens =)
Jenny says
Thanks for this video, Ann-Marie! Your ITP swirl soaps turned out great – that’s such a fun technique. I prefer to freeze milk, too. I’ve done only a couple of batches of goat’s milk soap, but I’ve got more in the freezer, along with some coconut milk, buttermilk, and cream. I need to make some more milk soaps soon because they are soooo nice!
LeslieGail says
Beautiful soap! I have a question that I have been wanting to ask about goat’s milk soap in general. At my festivals there are always a few potential customers who, after finding out that I do not add goats milk to my cp soaps, walk right out because they are convinced that my soap is not as good.
What exactly does goat’s milk add to CP soap? Another soap maker at a recent festival who also does not make goat’s milk soap said many people love it for the lather. I feel with my combination of oils, my lather is just as wonderful. I’ve also read about the caprylic acids in goat’s milk soap, but do any benefits remain after the saponification process?
Is there anything to goat’s milk soap that makes it better than a well formulated bar of CP soap or is it just that both are better than store bought “soap”?
P.S. I hope this doesn’t offend any goat’s milk soap makers. I am truly curious. 🙂
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Leslie!
That is a great question. Goat Milk (and milk soap recipes in general) soaps add a very nice and creamy lather that is super moisturizing to the skin. Many people like it because it is such a mild kind of soap for those with more sensitive skin. It really is a personal preference if you use Goat’s Milk in your soap or not. I’d try taking your favorite recipe and replacing the water in it with Goat’s Milk to see what you think of it.
-Becky with Bramble Berry
LeslieGail says
Thank you for your quick reply Becky. I did try a goat’s milk batch once and couldn’t tell any difference in that and my regular cp bars.
Sly says
I love this tutorial – thank you so much!
I have been wanting to make Coconut Milk soap for ages. Am I correct in assuming I can use this exact recipe and just substitute out the Goats Milk for a can of Coconut Milk?
Also, I have had difficulties in getting soap out of this cube mold before. How long do you recommend freezing it?
RE: fragrance: I have some Blackberry, raspberry, & strawberry FO’s that I have been wanting to try out, but the sun ripened raspberry FO description states that it moves quickly in CP. Do you have any recommendations? Would another scent be better with the blackberry & strawberry where I wouldn’t have to worry about it moving too quickly?
Thank you for your input!
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Sly!
You can totally take this recipe and substitute out the Goat’s Milk for your Coconut Milk and still have it work. We’d love to hear how it turns out for you. =)
With this particular recipe, you would leave it in the freezer overnight (12 hours), which just enough time to ensure that no gel phase occurs.
If you are wanting a Blackberry/Raspberry type fragrance in your cold process soap, I’d try out the Black Raspberry Vanilla Fragrance Oil. You get the notes of both the blackberry and raspberry with that extra delicious scent of vanilla. And the best part about this fragrance oil is that it doesn’t discolor!
Black Raspberry Vanilla Fragrance Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Black-Raspberry-Vanilla-Fragrance-Oil-P4440.aspx
But, you can totally use any fragrance that doesn’t accelerate on you like the Blackberry Cybilla or Strawberry Fragrance Oils. Just be aware if you use Strawberry, it is a bit light in CP.
Blackberry Cybilla: https://www.brambleberry.com/Blackberry-Cybilla-Fragrance-Oil-P3359.aspx
Strawberry Fragrance Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Strawberry-Fragrance-Oil-P3858.aspx
I hope this helps. =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Sly says
Well, Becky, I’m not sure what kind of a mess I will have…
I tried this recipe using Coconut Milk. But I didn’t notice that the can had “Guar Gum” in it and my milk & lye mixture was very “gummy.” It was kind of like molasses, but it did mix up with the oil to a nice trace. It acted like any other batch of CP when I mixed to trace & added the colors & fragrance.
Any idea how this will turn out?
Any one out there have this experience?
It’s always an adventure!!! (I sure hope it’s usable, as the colors were gorgeous…I used yellow instead of black. And coconut cybilla, pineapple cilantro, & pink grapefruit FO – smelled great too!)
Anne-Marie says
Yeah, Guar Gum is an ingredient to avoid. It’s in so many things. It’s definitely a gelling agent. However, if you got the soap to come to trace etc… you should be okay. Keep us posted after you cut.
Sly says
I went to the store today to try to find some coconut milk without Gaur Gum and couldn’t find anything that didn’t have it as well as lots of other additives. I did find some coconut water without additives and wonder how that would be in soap compared to the milk?
I also found some powdered Buttermilk and wondered if you have tried that in soap?
RE: another blogger on here asked about sodium lactate. Am I correct in assuming from that discussion that if you are NOT using the cube mold, you don’t need the sodium lactate?
Also, without the gel process, soap seems to come out really dull looking, so I added some Silk to my batch and it seemed to really brighten the colors. I didn’t change anything in the lye calculation adding silk & sodium lactate. Should the milk be discounted with these additives to the lye-water/milk mixture?
Thank you so much for your expertise.
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Sly! I can’t wait to hear more about your milk soaps, you are seriously going to have so much fun. You might have to ask around about the Coconut Milk, but I know there are some brands out there without the Guar Gum. You can totally use Coconut Water in your soap, but don’t be surprised when it turns your lye-water mixture an orange color. Don’t worry though, it won’t affect the color of your soap.
We have actually tried Buttermilk and have found that it makes a nice and creamy bar of soap. You can check out this tutorial that might give you some ideas:
Buttermilk Bastille Baby Bar: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/baby-soap-buttermilk-bastille-baby-bar/
Depending on your recipe, you might actually need to use Sodium Lactate, but you will want to with this recipe (and mold) because it is a little harder to pop out. The Sodium Lactate actually helps to harden up your soaps and make it easier (and faster) to unmold them.
Sodium Lactate: https://www.brambleberry.com/Sodium-Lactate-P5127.aspx
When you are adding something like additives or extracts, you don’t need to discount your milk (or water). I hope this helps! =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Sly says
Becky:
Thank you about the info about the coconut water turning orange – I would have been quite surprised otherwise!!
Thanks for the link to the Bastille Baby Bar – I had seen that before and forgot that it was made with buttermilk. I can’t wait to try it!
I have powdered buttermilk. Would you recommend I mix it with water according to the directions or just get fresh buttermilk, like on the recipe?
I read somewhere about using distilled water with lye, then adding the powdered buttermilk at trace, but I don’t have any idea how that would turn out.
Kirsten with Bramble Berry says
Hi Sly,
We love using powdered goats milk in our recipes, but we’ve never tried powdered buttermilk. I would highly recommend doing a small test batch to make sure it works out. We’ve had success rehyrdating goats milk according to manufacturers instructions and then subbing that out for the distilled water in regular recipes. You can also do this in place of the 7 oz. of fresh buttermilk that the Buttermilk Bastille Baby Bar recipe calls for.
We’ve also had success with lye and distilled water and adding a powdered milk slurry, using a reduced water to milk ratio, and then adding that at trace. You can create a slurry by adding a small amount of water and getting the mixture to a pudding-like consistency. Here is a video where we used powdered goats milk and I think that would really help you out. Check it out here:
http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/swirled-heart-cold-process-soap-on-soap-queen-tv/
We also offer books on making milk soaps. Here is an e-book you can buy and download immediately:
https://www.brambleberry.com/E-Book-Making-Milk-Soap-from-Scratch-P5257.aspx
There’s also a hardback option too:
https://www.brambleberry.com/Making-Milk-Soap-from-Scratch-P5252.aspx
-Kirsten with Bramble Berry
P.S. Be sure that your buttermilk doesn’t have any sugars in it because sugars can superheat soaps. Try to find a buttermilk powders with the least amount of additives.
Sly says
Kirsten:
Wow! Thanks for all the great tips and book info (which I put on my wish list!)
I watched the video and took notes. Fortunately, the Buttermilk I got at the health food store has no additives – Yay!!
Oksana says
Hello Anne-Marie.I have a question as to why we need to add Sodium Lactate to the soap, especially the milk one? I would love to know more about this ingredient. Thank you!
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Oksana!
Because this recipe has goat’s milk and olive oil in it, it is going to be a softer recipe. Sodium Lactate is actually liquid salt that helps to harden any cold process bar and make it last longer in the shower. It also helps your soap to get harder faster so that you can pop it out of the mold sooner. =)
Sodium Lactate: https://www.brambleberry.com/Sodium-Lactate-P5127.aspx
I hope this helps! 🙂
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Melissa says
This was a great tutorial Anne-Marie. Love the colors and the look in the middle when you cut the soaps. Thanks for a fun one!
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Thanks for your feedback, Melissa! We love the swirls and are so happy to hear the positive feedback from everyone on them. =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Sue says
Great video! Love the recommendations on how much lye to add & at what intervals to the milk.
Question: How long do you recommend leaving the soap in the fridge? Is it the same 24 hours that you would normally leave a soap before unmolding?
Thanks so much!
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Sue!
Thanks for watching the video! If you end up making Goats Milk soap, we’d love to hear how it turns out for you. =) When you are leaving the soap in the fridge or freezer, we suggest leaving it overnight (12 hours) which will be enough time to ensure that the soap does not go through gel phase.
-Becky with Bramble Berry
KeMira says
Thank you so much for this video Anne Marie! You have made milk soap much less intimidating than I once thought it was! Tried my first batch recently and it was great. I only froze my milk for a few hours so it was slushy not solid which made the end product a bit darker but there was no unpleasant smell at all. Next time ill freeze the milk solid for a whiter soap.
I do have one question…
Can I subtract a tablespoon of oil from my batch of oils to mix the colorant and then add it back in or should I use more oil separate from my soap batch?
Thanks again!
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi KeMira!
Isn’t milk soap just so much fun? After watching this video a half dozen times yesterday, all I want to do is make Goats Milk Soap. =) If it is a small amount (like the 1 tablespoon) of oil that you are taking away from your batch to mix your colorant, you are just fine. Anything bigger then say an ounce, you would want to add to your recipe and run it through the lye calculator one more time. I hope this helps. =)
Lye Calculator: https://www.brambleberry.com/Pages/Lye-Calculator.aspx
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Kelli Porter says
Great Video, But I have a question, at the beginning it says to use half goat milk than your recipe calls for water… but when I use the bramble berry lye calculator with these exact oils and measurements, it does say to use 12.4 oz of water for this recipe and here she uses 12.4 oz of frozen goat milk? I’m a little confused!