This post was updated in 2017 with the new Bramble Berry Fragrance Calculator design.
Have you ever started to make a batch of soap and realized you didn’t know how much fragrance or essential oil to use? Trying to figure out how much scent to add used to be a bit of an experimental process, and it didn’t always turn out so well. It’s frustrating to add too much of an expensive essential oil or not enough fragrance oil and end up with a beautiful but unscented bar of soap. Knowing how much to add can save you both time and money.
One of the best features on the Bramble Berry site is the Fragrance Calculator. It’s a handy tool that takes the guesswork out of soaping and gives you complete control over your recipes. Read on to learn how to make the Fragrance Calculator work for you.
ONE: Find the Bramble Berry Fragrance Calculator here. You can also find it near the bottom of the website in the pink area pictured. The calculator has options for lotion, liquid soap, cold process soap, melt and pour soap, salts and scrubs, rebatch soap, candles, and shampoo and conditioner.
TWO: Start by typing in the fragrance you’re using and then click “Next.” In this example we’re using Moonstone Fragrance Oil.
THREE: Select what you’re making, the weight, and the unit of measurement. When making cold process, enter the total weight of your soap, including oils, liquid, and lye. Our example is 16 ounces of cold process soap. Click “Next.”
FOUR: The results section gives you the recommendations for a light, medium, or strong scent in ounces and grams. You can change the scent, project, or weight by clicking the “Edit” buttons next to them. At the bottom there are options to buy the oil, print the recipe, or start over.
Finding out how much fragrance or essential oil you need is really that simple. You can also use the calculator to create custom blends – this post talks about how to blend fragrance oils, and this post talks about how to blend essential oils. You can also follow the general recommended amounts for various products below. They are medium strength.
Essential Oils:
Cold Process Soap: 0.7 ounces per pound
Melt and Pour Soap: 0.3 ounces per pound
Rebatch Soap: 0.4 ounces per pound
Lotion: 0.2 ounces per pound
Liquid Soap: 0.2 ounces per pound
Salts and Scrubs: 0.3 ounces per pound
Candles: 0.8 ounces per pound
Shampoo and Conditioner: 0.2 ounces per pound
Fragrance Oils:
Cold Process Soap: 0.7 ounces per pound
Melt and Pour Soap: 0.3 ounces per pound
Rebatch Soap: 0.4 ounces per pound
Lotion: 0.2 ounces per pound
Liquid Soap: 0.2 ounces per pound
Salts and Scrubs: 0.3 ounces per pound
Candles: 0.8 ounces per pound
Shampoo and Conditioner: 0.2 ounces per pound
Some fragrance and essential oils are light or exceedingly strong in soap, so you can always use a little more or a little less to your preference. For instance, English Rose Fragrance Oil is very strong, so you don’t need to use a full 0.7 ounces per pound of soap to get a strong scent. Always adjust to your personal nose and fragrance preference.
Jean Wharton says
New at using fragrance oils an I am curious is there a actual calculator for each oil or just a mild to strong scent .. according to what you decide to use ? Our soap molds are pretty much 20 bar sets Hot process total batch weight 6.5 pounds.
With our essential oil our usual measurements per 4.5 oz bar was 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon per bar. Would the fragrance oils be much different?
Terah with Bramble Berry says
We do have a Fragrance Calculator: https://www.brambleberry.com/calculator?calcType=fragrance
It will ask you what fragrance you’re using, what product you’re making and how large of a batch. It will then give you the usage rates for that product with a Low, Medium and Strong suggestion.
We normally recommend measuring by weight though for the most exact results. The amount used will depend on the specific essential / fragrance oil being used.
Charlotte Quattlebaum says
Since the fragrance calculator uses a total of oil+lye+water that weight can differ depending on how the water amount is calculated. Can you explain how Brambleberry calculates the liquid amount for cold process soap that was used for setting the fragrance?
Is the amount of liquid that you use in your lye calculator the amount you use in your fragrance calculator?
Chloe with Bramble Berry says
The amount of liquid our lye calculator goes out to is 22%. The fragrance calculator scents the whole batch since during a typical cure period each bar loses less than a half ounce of water weight per bar.
bakhoor perfume oil says
Thank you so much for your response to the ratio of fragrance to soap base.
Whitney says
Hello,
I make primarily cp goat milk soap, and am curious how calculations work when blending fragrance oils to create a new scent. I have successfully made several blends, but definitely do not want to risk using too much fragrance in the name of making sure both scents are evident after curing.
Chloe with Bramble Berry says
I would recommend reading this post on how to blend fragrances: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/fragrance-oil-blending-tips/
Ashley says
I’m wondering how much fragrance oil to add to an oil based perfume. I previously used your solid perfume base with the suggested ratio of .25 oz fragrance to 1 oz base, but this always seemed very high to me. Would it be the same? What would you suggest?
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
You can use the lotion option on our Fragrance Calculator to find out how much scent to use in perfume: http://www.brambleberry.com/Pages/Fragrance-Calculator.aspx
Barbara A. says
I am trying to find the IFRA Guidelines for each fragrance oil you sell. How do I find that information?
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
We can provide documents for fragrance oils you’ve ordered. You can request that by emailing [email protected].
Dee says
Thank you so much for your response to the ratio of fragrance to soap base. I am new to the Soap making process, and very comfortable using the Melt and Pour soap base with Essential oils. Regards
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
You’re welcome, thanks for reading Dee.
Sandra Mackenzie says
I am unclear as to how much fragrance to use in my bath bombs, bubble bars etc. and want to make sure I am staying within the safety margin. For instance, If I am making 2 – 100 gram bath bombs in the pumpkin spice fragrance, for a strong scent, I can add 0.21 ounces according to the calculator, which would be 0.1 ounces each. But what if I decide to only make 1 bathbomb instead? Now the amount in the bath is 0.21 ounces. My point is how much of the fragrance is actually safe to add to the bath because it’s going to be different depending on the size of the finished product. Thank you so much and I love all of the information and support you provide!!
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
You can add that fragrance depending on how much your total batch weighs. So, if you have just one bath bomb, add the .2 oz. The good news with bath bombs is the fragrances are diluted in a large tub of water, so you can use the strong recommendation without any worry.
Learn more about scenting bath bombs here: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/bath-bomb-questions-answers/
Sandra Mackenzie says
Good to hear as some fragrances are very light. Thank you Kelsey!!
Francesca says
Hi there! I’m a very new soap maker and wanted to try making my own recipes. I tried a few combinations in the Lye Calculator. I was just wondering — do fragrance oils and essential oils need to factor into the Lye calculations? Or do I just use the base oils to calculate the lye/liquid needed?
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
Fragrance and essential oils are considered additives, so you don’t need to factor them into your lye calculations. Once you have the total weight of your soap (lye, water, and oils), plug that into the Fragrance Calculator to find out how much to add.
Francesca says
thank you!
Diana says
it’s not just about the amount of fragrance folks. don’t forget to mention the temperatures! I soaped at about 100 degrees and got a smell that at times goes from something I can’t even describe ( not bad but not good either) to almost nothing. wasted about $20 in materials. only been two days since I made it. still has the ricey bumps on it. same recipe using menthol and peppermint well behaved. Apricot Freesia did not. I kept in my mind a little higher temp and I’ll be able to swirl with some color…once it began to rice up into an oily mess the color just blended into one. maybe a reminder on the bottle to the soaper? May rice over 100, use no more than 1.5 ounces pp, etc. kind of like side effects for medicine? just a thought.
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
We’ll get the note about high temperatures causing Apricot Freesia to morph on the label. Thanks for your suggestion Diana.
Leanne says
Thanks for clarifying that for CP soap, the fragrance calculator is intended to be used considering the final weight of all ingredients, including lye water. However, depending on one’s water discount, this weight will vary for the same amount of oils. Further, once CP soap cures, some water evaporates. For example, I have one recipe that yields 1,250 grams of batter, but the finished soap weighs 1,000 grams after 6 weeks of curing. So, should I calculate the fragrance amount based on 1,250 grams or 1,000?
It would seem that the FO isn’t going to evaporate with the water that’s lost during curing, but maybe it does? …. . If the FO is calculated based on the batter amount, rather than the final soap weight, could you end up exceeding the safe usage rate? (i.e., higher than a safe percentage in the final product).
Thanks!
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
If you know the weight of your soap after curing, you can plug that number in. Our Fragrance Calculator is formulated on the safe side, so even though you lose weight during the cure the fragrance amount shouldn’t be enough to cause irritation.
Laura says
Hello, I’m really interested in making homemade soap, and possibly others like oils, bath bombs, etc (But that’s future talk)..
I have so many questions, but the one that has been annoying me is..
If I add essential oils to my soap, do/can I add fragrance as well? Or will the essential oil be enough fragrance on its own?
If so, do you have any recommendations/good combinations?
Thank you!
Kelsey says
Hi Laura!
Making soap is so much fun! I think you’ll really like it. 🙂
You can add just essential oil to your soap, just fragrance oil or a combination of both. Some of my favorite combinations are essential and fragrance oil, including 10x Orange Essential Oil and Vanilla Select Fragrance Oil. It smells like a creamsicle!
10x Orange Essential Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Orange-10X-Essential-Oil-P4441.aspx
Vanilla Select Fragrance Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Vanilla-Select-Fragrance-Oil-P3888.aspx
Another great combination is Peppermint Essential Oil, 2nd Distill and Dark Rich Chocolate Fragrance Oil. That combination is perfect for holiday soaps. 🙂
Peppermint Essential Oil, 2nd Distill: https://www.brambleberry.com/Peppermint-Essential-Oil-2nd-Distill-P3832.aspx
Dark Rich Chocolate Fragrance Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Dark-Rich-Chocolate-Fragrance-Oil-P3881.aspx
What you choose to add to your soap is definitely personal preference. To find out how much to add, you can use our Fragrance Calculator: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/use-fragrance-calculator/
This blog post has some great tips on ensuring the scent stays nice and strong in your soap: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-prevent-scent-fading-in-soap/
And this blog post has some great tips on blending scents: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/fragrance-oil-blending-tips/
Hope that helps! 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Lucy Thomas says
I am new to soap making. And the fragrance calculator is great. but…..what about soap recipes that ask for things like bentonite clay and colloidal oatmeal? I am making a shaving soap recipe and that are some of the ingredients. Any help would be great!
Thanks.
Lucy
Amanda says
Hi Lucy!
I’m glad you find the fragrance oil calculator helpful :). Ingredients such as bentonite clay and colloidal oatmeal are awesome additives in soap. Clays in general add properties such as oil absorbtion and “slip,” while colloidal oatmeal is soothing. These ingredients are often referred to as “additives,” and there are no rules as to how much you can use in your soap. It really just depends on personal preference!
When working with clays, one thing to keep in mind is that clays absorb moisture. In soap, this can lead to it drying out and cracking. To help combat this, we recommend dispersing them in water (rather than oil) before adding them to cold process soap. Below are a few blog posts that you might find helpful!
Clay Recipe Roundup: http://www.soapqueen.com/bramble-berry-news/clay-recipe-roundup/
Sunday Night Spotlight: Brazilian Clay: http://www.soapqueen.com/bramble-berry-news/sunday-night-spotlight-brazilian-clay/
Colloidal oatmeal is an extremely fine ground oatmeal that is not rough or abrasive. You can use it up to 5% in cold process soap. I would recommend dispersing it in a lightweight liquid oil before adding it to soap, to help avoid clumps. I recommend using 1 tablespoon oil per teaspoon of colloidal oil. You can see this in the Goat Milk & Oatmeal Cold Process Soap Tutorial below.
Goat Milk & Oatmeal Cold Process Soap Tutorial:
http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/goat-milk-oatmeal-cold-process-soap-tutorial/
I hope this helps Lucy!
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Tom Wyant says
Directions are non-existent in this blog on how to determine the number of ounces of soap I am making in order to enter the amount into the fragrance calculator. Is the number of ounces determined solely by the total ounces of oil used OR does it also include the number of ounces of water and lye? Thanks.
Kelsey says
Hi Tom!
The amount in the Fragrance Calculator is the total amount of soap – that includes oils, water and lye. Sorry about any confusion! Also, I updated this blog post to make that more clear. Thanks so much for bringing that to our attention. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Tom says
Thanks, Kelsey! I appreciate the information.
Jennifer says
Hi there! I was just wondering for liquid soap do I put in the weight of soap paste, or for the diluted soap amount? Any suggestions would be very helpful!! Thanks!
Chloe with Bramble Berry says
The weight of your final diluted soap!
Ay_mru says
Hi
I am pretty new to soap making.
I used extra peppermint in hot process soap. Although soap is excellent in quality and lather, I would still want to tame its overpowering scent. How can I save that batch? Please help.
Can I make similar unscented batch, and add this particular batch with peppermint? Will that yield similar quality soap?
Thanks in advance
Kelsey says
Hi there!
I’ve done that before – peppermint is definitely a strong scent! A little goes a long way. 🙂
I think you have a great idea. I would recommend rebatching the soap and adding equal parts of unscented soap. Adding that unscented soap should help tame the peppermint. Also, the soap will feel great!
How to Rebatch Soap: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/soap-queen-tv-presents-how-to-make-rebatch-soap-2/
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Kim Standley says
If I am using 2 oils together such as lavender and tea tree, and I want a strong scent of both, do you recommend the full amount the calculator suggests of both or halfing the fragrances?
Kelsey says
Hi Kim!
That’s a great question! Our Fragrance Calculator suggests the total amount of essential oil to add to your soap. So, if the total amount is 2 ounces, you want both essential oils to add up to 2 ounces. You can split that 1:1 – 1 ounce lavender, 1 ounce tea tree – or do another ratio of your preference. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Lavender 40/42 Essential Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Lavender-4042-Essential-Oil-P3664.aspx
Tea Tree Essential Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Tea-Tree-Essential-Oil-P3834.aspx
Caroline says
I asked myself the same question,
it would be interesting to make a calculator 2 or 3 addition of essential oil and they take into account their own synergy to put more than one or more of the other …
thank you
caroline
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
Thanks for your suggestion, I passed it along to our website manager.
Betty Madsen says
I am making shampoo bars and adding 3 different essential oils for their particular value and think it would be great to have a fragrance calculator that would take this into account. I had to sort thru a lot of questions to find one that addressed this issue.
Terah with Bramble Berry says
You can still find out how much to use with our Fragrance Calculator. Find out how to blend Essential Oils safely using the calculator in the post How to Blend Essential Oils Safely:
https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-blend-essential-oils-safely/
Sexy Witch says
How about adding these fragrance oils: Banana, Cotton Candy, Marshmallow, Grape, Black Cherry, Pink Sugar, Bubble Gum, Frankincense & Myrrh, Candy Corn, Cherry Coke, and more Christmas scents? 🙂
Kelsey says
Thanks so much for your suggestions! Those sound lovely. We do have a Frankincense and Myrrh scent you may like: https://www.brambleberry.com/Frankincense-And-Myrrh-Fragrance-Oil-P3864.aspx
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Nathalie Breault says
does your calculator is based on Per pound of oil in cold process or not. If I make HP do I choose the rebatch one? thank you
Kelsey says
Hi Nathalie!
Our Fragrance Calculator is the recommendation per pound of soap. That includes oil, liquid and lye. Also, you can use the “Cold Process” option from the drop down menu for hot process soap.
Hope that helps! 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Katie says
Can you add solid perfume as a category to the calculator? I’m wondering about how much Black Amber to add to 2 oz of solid perfume. I watched your video where you talk about using fo’s, but then you only give the measurements for eo’s. Thanks!
Kelsey says
Hi Katie!
Thanks so much for that great suggestion! You can use 1/4 ounce of fragrance or essential oil per 1 ounce of solid perfume. That will give you a nice strong scent. 🙂
Solid Perfume Base: https://www.brambleberry.com/Solid-Perfume-Base-P5884.aspx
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Janice says
Please make a mobile app for this! Thank you:)
Kelsey says
That’s a great suggestion Janice! Thanks for your feedback. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Caroline Amezcua says
Good one! You can’t print your recipe from an iPad or an iPhone. So frustrating to have to dig your computer out just print.
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
You can access the calculator on the BrambleBerry.com mobile site, it’s located near the bottom of the page. That makes it easy to use on the go.
Patti Connors says
Hi again! Just a simple question that I may have missed, when you are using the fragrance calculator (or when calculating for a mold), do you include the lye and water or just the oils? Maybe a silly question but oh well! Seems like you would but just want to be sure. I think Ive been over scenting so I’m paying more attention now. Thanks!
Kelsey says
Hi Patti!
That’s a great question! It never hurts to double check. You calculate the amount of fragrance based on the total weight of your soap, including the oils, lye and water. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Chris H says
Hi there. Thanks for the great info. I am starting my soap journey so this was very helpful. If it is the first time I’m doing a recipe, how do I know how much my soap will weigh to enter that into the calculator? Is there a way to estimate this based on the recipe?
Kelsey says
Hi Chris!
You’re welcome, so glad you found the post helpful!
When you’re making your soap, we recommend measuring everything by weight. We’ve found it’s more accurate, and that way you know the correct weight for the Fragrance Calculator.
A Guide to Weight vs. Volume: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/a-guide-to-weight-vs-volume/
To find out exactly how much lye and liquid to use, you can use our Lye Calculator! Simply input your oil amounts and click “Calculate.”
Using the Bramble Berry Lye Calculator: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/using-the-bramble-berry-lye-calculator-2/
Typically, you want to make enough soap to fill your mold. You can find out how much each of our molds hold in the descriptions on brambleberry.com. 🙂
Molds: https://www.brambleberry.com/Molds-C184.aspx
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Gary says
Purchased Fir Needle and Rosemary fragrance oils from Brambleberry but they’re not listed in the calculator. I’ll follow the above info at .7oz per lb. Thanks. Be great if they were added to the calculator.
Kelsey says
Hi Gary!
You can use .7 ounces of those essential oils per pound of cold process soap. Also, thanks so much for letting us know! I passed that along to the person in charge of the Fragrance Calculator. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Fir Needle Essential Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Fir-Needle-Essential-Oil-Siberian-P3826.aspx
Rosemary Essential Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Rosemary-Essential-Oil-P3817.aspx
Nathalie Breault says
wow, I love this site. what about the ration for lip balm? any idea. thank you so so much
Kelsey says
Hi Nathalie!
That’s a great question! You can add flavor oils at 1-3% in your lip balm recipe. You can find more information in the Sunday Night Spotlight: Flavoring Oils post: http://www.soapqueen.com/bramble-berry-news/sunday-night-spotlight-flavoring-oils/
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Helga says
When creating your own lotion recipe, do you include the fragrance as part of the total percentage or after? For example would the 20 oz include the fragrance or would the fragrance be added on top of the 20 oz of oils, butters, water, etc. Also same question for preservative?
Kelsey says
Hi Helga!
Fragrance oils are considered an additive. That means you calculate how much fragrance to add based on the total amount, including oils, butters and waxes. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Helga says
So both the preservative and the fragrance are additives are are done after the fact based on the Oils, Butters, Waxes?
Kelsey says
Hi Helga!
Whoops, looks like I missed the question about preservatives! Sorry about that Helga.
You add the preservatives based on the total weight of your recipe. Typically, they are added at 1%. You’d want your preservative to be 1% of the total weight of the recipe, including butters, waxes and water. 🙂
Talk It Out Tuesday: Preservatives: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/lotion/talk-it-out-tuesday-preservatives/
Sonya says
Since I’m fairly new to soap making I purchased the Honeysuckle, and didn’t realize it was a FO and not an EO. I’m allergic to the smell of most synthetics but I thought I’d try it anyway. It turns out I’m allergic to it, not to mention it didn’t go well with the oil blend I used (which consisted of some bear tallow). Instead of throwing out my entire batch of soap, if I rebatch it, will it burn off some of the FO? Then I might be able to give it away.
Kelsey says
Hi Sonya!
Oh no, I’m sorry to hear that! The Heavenly Honeysuckle and Honeysuckle Surplus fragrance oils both have flashpoints of 200F or higher. If your rebatch gets that hot, it will burn the soap and could make it dry or crumbly.
Honeysuckle Surplus Fragrance Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Honeysuckle-Surplus-Fragrance-Oil-P4165.aspx
Heavenly Honeysuckle Fragrance Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/Heavenly-Honeysuckle-Fragrance-Oil-P5928.aspx
I would recommend checking out our Teach Soap Forum. Sometimes the soapers on there swap soap! That may be an option for you so someone can enjoy your soap. 🙂
Teachsoap.com/forum
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Tyler says
Good day Bramble Berry! I’d love to see the Hazelnut Toffee on the fragrance calculator… 🙂
Kelsey says
Hi Tyler!
I’ll definitely pass that along to the person in charge of the Fragrance Calculator, thanks so much for letting us know!
If you need to know how much to add to your recipe, you can use the general usage guidelines listed above. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Helen says
Here is my question. Can I mix eo’s and fo’s in the same batch of soap? Also in your chart that tells how many oz’s to use for each type of soap, I didnt see hot process soap listed.
Kelsey says
Hi Helen!
You can absolutely mix fragrance and essential oils!
Also, the usage rates for hot process soap will be the same as the usage rates for cold process soap. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Angie says
I just saw Cathy’s question too. But how do you calculate ratios when using more than one EO?
Kelsey says
Hi Angie!
How much of each essential oil you use is up to you. For instance, if you like a stronger citrus smell, you can add more citrus. It may take a little blending to get the scent you like!
Also, we have a great post about figuring out how much essential oil to add when you’re given parts! Soapy Math: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/math-soapers/
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Angie says
But what if I’m using more than one EO in my soap. How should I calculate that?
Kelsey says
Hi Angie!
A great way to figure that out is to use the standard usage rate, which is .7 oz per pound of soap. Then you can make a blend of essential oils that add up to .7 oz per pound. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Ellen Maisen says
Hi,
I really appreciate all of your experimenting and informing us of good usage rates. It saves being frustrated and wasting soap!
I have been distilling Lemon Verbena essential oil, and with my table top distiller it takes some time to get a quantity of oil from the dried leaves. I have about 2 mil right now. This seems like a strong eo. Do you have any experience with using it in CP soap? It is edible and on the skin it seems very strong.
Amanda says
Hi Ellen!
Oh that’s so neat! I very rarely hear of anybody makes their own essential oil, that’s awesome :). Because the the distillation process is different, I would imagine the usage rate would be different as well. I would recommend checking out the Teach Soap Forum, and seeing if a fellow soap maker has experience using their homemade essential oils 🙂
Teach Soap Forum: http://www.teachsoap.com/forum/
I hope this helps!
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Cathy Gallahan says
I was wondering if I will be using 44ozs of oils and the recipe is 1 part orange essential oil, 1 part patchouli essential oil & 2 parts lavender essential oil how do you put this into the fragrance calculator?
Amanda says
Hi Cathy!
I recommend calculating the amount of fragrance you use based on the total yield of your recipe, rather than just the amount of oils used 🙂
I would then use the general usage rate of .7 ounces of fragrance oils per pound of soap. For example, if your yield was 64 ounces (or 4 pounds) you would use a total of 2.8 (.7 ounces multiplied by 4) ounces of fragrance.
Then, you just need to figure out the ratios, which would be .7 ounces of orange essential oil, .7 ounces of patchouli essential oil, and 1.4 ounces of lavender essential oil.
I hope this helps, let me know if you have any more questions 🙂
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Molly says
Is the ‘0.7 ounces per pound’ usage rate for CP soap the total weight of everything (oils, water, lye, butter, etc) or is it the total weight of just the oils?
Amanda says
Hi Molly!
Good question :). The “ounces per pound” refers to the total yield of your soap, rather than just the oils 🙂
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Concepcion says
This was my first time using the fragrance calculator. I used the strong suggestion for the “coconut cybilla” and the result was a soap almost “unscented”. Fortunately for me, I always make a test batch (414gms) before making the regular one. In my notes I wrote…next time more scent as is almost unscented. I used vanilla stabilizer (from Brambleberry) with the scent and the finished color is a light salmon, not bad look nice… but I tough it will be more clear, at least a beige color not a salmon color. I added the same amount of stabilizer than fragrance oil. What happened here? I used the vanilla stabilizer with “Vanilla Select”in the past and the soap color was a light beige.
Amanda says
Hi there!
Are you working with melt and pour, or cold process? Vanilla stabilizer works well in melt and pour, but can be unreliable for cold process, so we generally do not recommend using it for cold process soap. I’m sorry to hear that the Coconut Cybilla was not strong enough for you, we have always found that it results in a nice strong scent. If you’d like to tell me a little bit more about your recipe and methods, I’d be happy to help troubleshoot! 🙂
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Sharon says
How would you suggest I use the fragrance calculator if I want to add more than one essential oil in the same recipe? I usually make 1000g batches so like to measure my essential oils in grams too. For example an eo combination of 1 part Patchoulli eo to 3 parts lavender eo. Love this site:)
Sharon
Amanda says
Hi Sharon!
I’m so glad you enjoy the blog! When in doubt, you can use the standard usage rate for essential oils and cold process soap which is .7 ounces per pound. You can then take the total and split it up between your two fragrances :). The great thing about adding fragrances to your soap is that while there is a suggested usage rate, a lot of it is personal preference! Many soapers ad less or more than our fragrance calculator suggests, just depending on if they like a stronger or lighter fragranced soap 🙂
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Carolyn says
I just wanted to “2cd” the suggestion for a quick reference guide on your essential / fragrance oils, perhaps as a download, PDF file that could be printed out by those of us, who are new to soap-making. I have used your fragrance calculator (&, yes, it is really fantastic & much appreciated), but I still added too much & ended up w/a small amount of ricing in one of my colors. I use my iPad when soaping, & just did not read it correctly, (think soaping goggles on, readers off…).
If this is something Brambleberry would consider offering, even as an incentive for ordering a certain $$ amount of fragrance oils, that would be fantastic! Just one other idea that I would find extremely helpful with a fragrance oil reference PDF, would be the added perk of popular/ timed tested fragrance oil blends, which are offered throughout the descriptions of the FO’s offered by BB. I love being able to read those FO blends, but can never retain all that info when really needed.
Amanda says
Hi Carolyn!
Thanks for the idea, I will pass it along! 🙂 In the meantime, I would recommend copying and pasting the quick reference guide into a word program and printing it out…I totally understand how handy that would be to have on hand while soaping! Thanks again for the idea Carolyn 🙂
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
JenZ says
I’d like to see a couple of EOs added – Karma & cinnamon.
Amanda says
Hi Jen!
Thanks for the suggestion. In the meantime, what you can do is use the suggested amount for essential oils according to the chart above, .7 ounces per pound for cold process soap, and .25 ounces per pound of melt and pour base. Of course the amount of fragrance that you use is a little bit of a personal preference as well! You can use less or more, depending on what you like 🙂
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Viv says
I am a new soapmaker and getting used to the weighing the liquids soI want to clarify before I place my first order.
If I am making a 5# batch of cold process soap I need 3.60 oz. or about 7 tablespoons of the Relaxing fragrance oil blend.
The bottle of oil is sold by the oz, which correct me if I am wrong is a liquid oz. measurement, so I should need a little more than the 4 oz bottle.
Thank you for your help.
Amanda says
Hi Viv!
All of our fragrances are poured to order by weight, which means you’ll receive 4 oz (by weight) of fragrances. Because some oils are heavier than others, sometimes this means that the bottle will not be filled up all the way. So while the fragrance may be 3.6 oz, it may not be 7 tablespoons. To give you a better idea of what I mean, you may find this post helpful!
Weight Vs. Volume: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/a-guide-to-weight-vs-volume/
I hope this helps! 🙂
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Cat says
If you want to figure out the amount for bath fizzies, does that fall under salts, or something else?
Also, I’m wondering about Orange Valencia?
Amanda says
Hi Cat!
Yes, that would fall under salts and scrubs 🙂 .3 ounces of essential oil per pound is a good amount for bath fizzies.
The Orange Valencia Essential Oil is a very light and fresh scent that works great in cold process as well as other body products. I bet it would be great in a bath fizzy!
Orange Valencia Oil:https://www.brambleberry.com/Orange-Valencia-Essential-Oil-P3831.aspx
Here are some bath fizzy recipes to get you started!
Hidden Color Bath Bombs: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/bath-fizzies/hidden-color-bath-bombs/
Sparkle Power Bath Bomb Tutorial: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/bath-fizzies/sparkle-power-bath-bomb-tutorial/
Hope this helps!
-Amanda with Bramble Berry
Andrea says
Potentially stupid question (so I will start off by saying I’m only in week 1 of my soaping adventures!) but if I am supposed to use .7oz per pound of cp soap then that would be 1.61oz of EO/FO for a 37oz batch but most EO/FO that I’ve found come in a 10ml bottle so I would need to use 4.5 bottles to use the recommended amount?
I thought 37oz was a rather small batch size (while I’m testing out recipes) but 4.5 bottles of scent seems quite a lot?
Just curious if I’m misunderstanding? 🙂 Thanks!!
x Andrea
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Andrea!
Welcome to the soapmaking world! We are so excited that you have started soaping and can’t wait to see how your batches turn out.
If you do not purchase your essential and fragrance oils at Bramble Berry, they may come in smaller bottles, but if you purchase them with us, you can typically get any fragrance oil in a 2, 4 and 8 ounce size. If you are only using 10 mL bottles, you will need quite a few to get the full amount for your soap batch.
Fragrance Oils: https://www.brambleberry.com/Fragrance-Oils-C161.aspx
The typical usage rate for fragrances in cold process soaps is .7 ounce per pound. This will ensure that your entire batch (lye + water + oils/butters) get scented. 37 ounces is actually 3 lbs of soap and would use about 2.1 ounces of fragrance oil for the entire batch.
I hope this helps to explain it a bit more, and if you have any other questions, let us know! =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Andrea says
Ah! I see, and thank you for your awesome answer as usual! I’m in the UK and they mostly seem to sell alice in wonderland sized miniature bottles here (or they’re super expensive when you do find bigger bottles!) I think maybe you should think about expanding into a warehouse over here 😀
Thanks so much. And your videos are AMAZING btw!
Love watching them and love that you stick the bloopers in!
x Andrea
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Andrea!
Did you know that we do sell our products internationally? We actually ship to the UK and you can purchase our fragrance oils on Bramble Berry’s website. 🙂
https://www.brambleberry.com/
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Dawnia Radig says
Hi,
I use Optiphen in my Conditioners, at 1%. I can still smell it if it’s Unscented.
But once you scent it the smell goes away.
Is this what you recommend ?
Thanks!!
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Good morning, Dawnia!
If you are using Optiphen in your products we suggest using it at a rate of .5% – 1.5%. If you are finding that it is a bit smelly, I would suggest working at the .5% rate to see if that is any better. I hope this helps! =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Optiphen: https://www.brambleberry.com/Optiphen-P3682.aspx
Dawnia says
Oops silly me! I see, it’s the FO and EO’s are different. Sorry!!
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Dawnia!
That is totally alright! We definitely want to make sure our customers have all their questions answered. And if you have have a query that you can’t quite figure out, let us know — we are here to help you! =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Dawnia says
Hi,
I love the calculator! It is a great tool, but like you said you have to trust you nose, and personal experience too! I just want to clarify, in the ver first list in this article, shampoos and conditioners are listed twice, once at .4, and then .2 oz per lb. later it’s listed at .4. So is it.4? I have to go with customers personal preference most of the time on hair products. But you have to use enough to cover the preservative smell. Does anyone else notice that? I can smell it, and I don’t like it, but FO or EO’s cover it up.
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Dawnia!
There are two different usage rates listed above, one for essential oils and one for fragrances oils. Because essential oils are so potent, you are going to generally use less of them in your products than you would the fragrance oils. We haven’t had a problem with the preservatives smelling too much in hair-care products. Which ones are you using?
-Becky with Bramble Berry
susan butterfield says
Thank you so much for this calculator. I’m a small soaper so I might only make two or three soaps with one fragrance and Yeah! I know now how much to use. (I was using way to less) I do have one question, if one of the fragrance oil has vanilla in it can I use the stabilizer so it doesn’t turn brown?
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Good morning, Susan!
We are excited to hear more about your soaping, especially know that you know you can use up to a certain amount of fragrances (known more always makes soaping better!)
If you are making melt and pour soap, you can use Vanilla Color Stabilizer to help prevent your soaps from discoloring. Vanilla Color Stabilizer only works marginally well in cold process (for 4-9 months), so I would try a tester if you are making a CP recipe.
Vanilla Color Stabilizer: https://www.brambleberry.com/Vanilla-Color-Stabilizer-P4156.aspx
I hope that this helps! Let us know if you have any other questions. =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Sara says
I looked up for cookie dough fragrance, but its not there. ( got it in Spain actually..)
Anyway I thank you for sharing your fragrance calculator, im sure its going to be of great help! : )
Thanks
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Sara!
The Bramble Berry Fragrance Calculator is actually for all Bramble Berry fragrance and essential oils. If it isn’t one of our fragrances, it isn’t going to be on there. But, never fear, you can use the handy chart above for adding fragrances to your products:
Fragrance Oils:
Cold Process Soap: .7 ounces per pound
Melt & Pour Soap: .5 ounces per pound
Rebatch Soap: .6 ounces per pound
Lotions: .3 ounces per pound
Liquid Soap: .6 ounces per pound
Salts & Scrubs: .2 ounces per pound
Candles: 1 ounce per pound
Shampoo & Conditioners: .4 ounces per pound
I hope that this helps! 🙂
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Joqna says
But this recomendation of 0.6 ounces per pound of liquid soap is intended for diluted or undiluted liquid soap?
Becky says
Your fragrance calculator is based on weight of the finished soap, correct? Since I am used to figuring things out using the weight of my base oils, I just need to clarify. Should I add up the weights of all the ingredients (oils, lye, water, milks, additive, colorants, and the fragrance/essential oils) to find the weight of each batch? Thanks.
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Becky!
Our fragrance calculator calculations is based on the final weight of the soap, which is oil/butters + water + lye. You won’t actually need to add the weight of the colorants, extracts or actual fragrance because it isn’t enough to affect the scent of the final batch. I hope this helps! =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Sarah says
Glad this question was asked, I was wondering the same thing. Could this be added to the directions, for clarity?
Heather says
I would also love for this to be added to the directions. I made a batch of CP soap that was scented lighter than I would like after cure even though I used the “medium” rate. Then I realized I only used my oil weight in the calculation!
Kelsey says
Hi Heather!
Fragrance and essential oils are considered an additive, so they are added to the total weight of your recipe, include oils, lye and liquid. Sorry for any confusion, and thanks for your suggestion!
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
AshMac says
P.S.
What I would really like to see on Bramble Berry is a way to sort the fragrances by trace and by discoloration. I have to do a lot of research to get to the slower moving, non-discoloring fragrances so I can make swirl recipes. I have the book, which provides good scents for swirls, but I would like more fragrance options. 🙂
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Good morning, Ash!
I just love that suggestion and I will pass it onto the team. If you are looking to avoid discoloring fragrances, here is a vanilla content blog post that you can check out for more information:
http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/why-did-my-soap-turn-brown/
-Becky with Bramble Berry
AshMac says
LOL! I suppose I shouldn’t have used 3.5 ounces of English Rose to 4 pounds of soap! Perhaps then I wouldn’t have gotten seized, cracked concrete (that smells really good)! 😉 I learned a similar lesson with Woodland Elves! Alas, I didn’t know about the fragrance calculator. But now I do! Yay! I have wasted quite a bit of fragrance, but no more! Living, learning, and enjoying the journey. 🙂
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Ash!
The English Rose is a tricky fragrance and can definitely accelerate trace in your soaps, so you will want to use a little less of it. If you ever have a question about any of our products, don’t hesitate to ask. We can answer here on the blog or on Bramble Berry’s Facebook page. =)
Happy Soaping!
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Elizabeth says
I realize that there are differences between people, concerning how much fragrance is “just right”, but is there a way that you could adjust your calculator to accommodate the strengths of different fragrances? Since you know that English Rose comes on strong, could you factor that into your calculator so I wouldn’t have to find out through trial and error that I don’t need to add very much of it?
Frequently, I’ve seen reviews of fragrances that they are faint after soaping, to which there is a reply that “you can add more next time” … which is absolutely correct, but it doesn’t fix the problem that I just made a beautiful batch of basically unfragranced soap. Could hints about fragrance strengths be added to the “Notes” section, so this would show up in the fragrance calculator results page? Then I could see that, for the particular fragrance I’ve selected, I need to tend toward the heavy side or the light side.
I’m afraid this comment sounds a bit negative – don’t get me wrong, I love the calculator! I just see a couple of areas where it could be even better. Thanks! 🙂
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Elizabeth!
Thank you so much for your feedback, we really appreciate it when our customers let us know what they would like to see in our products and services. I will pass this onto our team to see how we can improve the calculator. You can also check out our new Product Review feature and see if any other customers have notes or suggestions on using that particular product. =)
We do have a setting in the fragrance Calculator for ‘strong’ fragrances. It is actually a matter of personal preference for fragrances, so if you finds it strong you would definitely want to use less! And, if you look at our calculator, we go by safe max usage rates, so if you want to make sure you like a particular fragrance, we would suggest using either the medium or light rates first. I hope this helps! 🙂
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Annie Tang says
I agree Elizabeth! This is why I rely on reviews so much because I have run into issues with fragrance oils. I love the calculator, but it is nice to have the human element as well. However, even that is problematic as I recently learned with the Woodland Elves oil. Reviewers commented on it being strong, and the calculator recommended a much smaller amount (even the strongest recommended amount) that I usually would use in soap, but for me the woodland elves turned out to be a lightweight in my soap and has almost disappeared. Realistically, I don’t know if there is a solution to this issue (or these issues), so I try to read all the reviews as well as contribute my own. There is great community spirit in the reviews!
Annie
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Annie!
Thanks for the suggestion too! We really appreciate our customers letting us know what does and doesn’t work for them. If you are finding that your Woodland Elves fragrance oil is a bit to light in your soap, you can add a little extra as soap is a wash-off product. =)
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Elizabeth says
I always test out new FOs before making them into a full batch. It’s a bit of a challenge, but I can determine how a FO or EO will perform for me in general.
I get a bunch of 5-oz Dixie cups and label popsicle sticks with the name of each FO/EO to be tested. I make a batch of Lots of Lather soap that’s sized to make a 4-oz sample cup for each FO/EO. Soon before I mix up the soap, I measure out around 5 ml or 5 g of each FO/EO into separate cups and place the labeled stick on top of the cup. Mix up the batch, pour 4 oz soap into the fragranced cup, stir the soap well into the FO/EO with the popsicle stick, then proceed to the next cup. I learned that it’s best to leave the stick standing upright in the middle of the cup … then, when the soap is ready to “field test”, it’s a soap on a stick! And pretty fun to use in the shower.
This method gives you a real comparison between different FOs, so you can determine if an FO is a strong one, or a fader that requires extra dosage. You can also compare the discoloration, since the LOL recipe makes a lovely ivory colored soap on its own. However, it’s hard to really test for accelerated trace, since you’re dealing with such a small sample.
The best way to ensure a true comparison between FOs is to weigh everything precisely. I just got a nice scale that can handle 0.1g, so it helps me with my soapy experimentation! 🙂 But a graduated pipette like BB offers is a good way to measure a controlled amount of FO for comparison.
As they say: Happy Soaping!
Elizabeth, a Fragrance Addict 🙂
(I posted photos of my first sample run on BB’s FB page a couple of weeks ago, but I don’t see how to post it again here…)