I’ve long been fascinated with how to make Labcolor’s inherent bleeding qualities work in a bar of soap. It does a great tie-dye look and the swirls are romantic and ephemeral. But, the idea of a sunset or a rainbow really drew me in. I started with a simple but sophisticated color graduation. It’s a very easy concept in theory but in practice, takes precision and weighing … and patience.
My husband and I are using this bar in our shower at home right now at home and it has fantastic lather and a great balance of bubbles with moisture and creaminess. Coupled with the absolutely exquisite scent and sophisticated color, it’s one of my favorite recipes I’ve made in a while. Read through all the instructions; it requires prep and precision.
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Wendy says
Dear Ann Marie,
Your soaps are all so beautiful! I love your tutorials. I am fairly new to soaping and I have a question about preservatives, I have not used the lab colors and I am wondering why they need one. Also I love your carrot buttermilk soap and I don’t understand why that does not need a preservative. Please explain.
Thanks
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Good morning, Wendy!
The reason you need to use a preservative in your LabColor is that you will be diluting it with water, and anytime you are using water (other than cold process soaping), you are going to want to use a preservative to keep any bacteria or mold from growing.
And, in both melt and pour and cold process (like the Carrot Buttermilk Soap), you don’t need to add a preservative because they both have a pH level that does not allow mold or bacteria growth in the soap.
If you have any more questions about preservatives, we can answer them for you, and you can check out this blog post that talks all about preservatives: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/lotion/talk-it-out-tuesday-preservatives
I hope this helps! 🙂
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Moony says
Plz lemme know how to make my soap in gelled phase to avoid the bad dark color?
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Hi Moony!
Anytime you gel your soap, it will come with that brighter and deep color. IF you don’t want it to gel, all you need to do is soap at lower temperatures and not insulate your mold. 🙂
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Moony says
Thanx for ur nice soap really looks great, i wana ask u some questions , im a beginer in soap making and i faced some problems themfirst is in the cold process after i get my bars out then leave them as they say 2weeks for saponification , the nice creamy color would be changed after my soap gets dry !! Its bad and i dunno how to stop this its naturally happens , second Q i tried milkmsoap but it turned to light brown color although i used slushy frozen milk , any advise to get a nice super white bars?
And finally plz let me know how to order for some equpmint and tools from brumble berry (im not from U.S)
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Good morning, Moony!
1. After the 4-6 cure time, most cold process soaps are going to have more of a muted color then you saw while it was the soap batter. But if you want really vibrant colors I’d try letting your soap go through gel phase. Here is a couple of blog posts on the differences between soaps that have gelled and soaps that have not:
Soaping Notes: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/soaping-notes/
LabColors and Gel Phase are Friends: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/labcolors-and-gel-phase-are-friends/
2. Most milk soaps will naturally turn brown because that is the nature of using any type of milk in cold process soap. But you can always add a bit of colorant to help lighten it. It won’t turn it super white, but it will give you a bit of a lighter color. I’d suggest trying out: Kaolin Clay, Titanium Dioxide or a white mica.
https://www.brambleberry.com/Kaolin-Clay-P3235.aspx
https://www.brambleberry.com/Titanium-Dioxide-Pigment-P4040.aspx
https://www.brambleberry.com/Super-Pearly-White-Mica-P3463.aspx
3. If you want to order from Bramble Berry’s website, you can make an order online on our website here:
https://www.brambleberry.com/Default.aspx
Or you can call customer service toll-free at 1.877.627.7883 and they would be able to help you place an order!
I hope this helps, let me know if there is anything else I can do for you. 🙂
-Becky with Bramble Berry
Moony says
Thank u so much for the fast answer it was helpful . Do u have ur products ( the same as ujust suggested on me ) on amazon? If u do then it would be easier order them from there cuz one of my relatives in us and he has an account at amazon
Becky with Bramble Berry says
Good morning!
If you did want to order from Bramble Berry, we do ship intentionally. 🙂
https://www.brambleberry.com/International-Shipping-Policies-W31.aspx
But, at this time our products are not available on Amazon.
-Becky with Bramble Berry
maureen says
this is the thrid time i am making soap and it keep cracking what to do
Anne-Marie says
Cracking where? At the top, right down the middle perhaps?
Pelin says
Dear Anne Marie,
The soap looks wonderful, so I will try it. But I don’t have the exact colorants and fragrance so I will use the ones on hand.
I have two questions: What is the reason why you’re working with 140 degrees? I don’t have your labcolors so I will try a different colorant and wondered if the temperature is related to the colors and/or the fragrance you used?
I also plan to use an EO blend of rose, lavender, geranium and some scent coming from chamomiles infused in olive oil. Would you rather suggest lower temps?
Many thanks, looking fwd to your reply…
Anne-Marie says
The soap stays more liquid at 140 degrees so I like to soap at that amount when I know I’m going to need to have a bit of extra time to work with the soap base. The oils you’re planning on using should be fine at 140 degrees – the soap gets much cooler when it is poured because it takes a while to get all those layers to work =)
Pelin says
Thx so much… One more question: It is often said that palm kernel oil and coconut oil almost have the same qualities, and I see in different soap recipes – as well as this one- that both are included. I really would appreciate if you could explain their difference and effect on the soap. Thx again 🙂 P.
Courtney says
Palm Kernel Oil and Coconut Oil definitely contribute different things to a soap recipe. The Palm Kernel Oil is much harder than the Coconut Oil, and we usually add it to our recipes to help make the soap last a little longer. But, it does lather less than Coconut Oil, which is why we’ve included both in this recipe.
-Courtney with Bramble Berry
liz says
I just LOVE all your tutorials and i can NOT wait to try this!!!
MIKA says
WOW ! what a beautiful color soap ! I like 🙂
Anne-Marie says
Thank you! It is such a great looking soap and worth the payoff of the time consuming precise nature of the technique. =)
TikiBarSoap says
Wow, I want to try this! I love my scale, so this should be fun 🙂 It looks beautiful, I love the shimmer and the color fade – great technique
Anne-Marie says
Thank you! I can’t wait to hear what you think of the soap when you make it. If you get around to it, post a photo on our FB wall. I’d love to see how yours turns out: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bramble-Berry/100412115503
Marva Small says
I have just registered my soap business, Marvalous Creations and am definately looking forward to trying out all your beautiful soaps for sale. Thanks you so much. You have the best prices. Bramble Berry rocks!
Anne-Marie says
Thanks Marva! Congrats on starting your business and making it official!
Heidi says
Thank! I have palm kernel flakes. I’m excited to try this recipe this w/e. I really appreciate and enjoy this website, videos and all the info the website gives.
Heidi says
Question… The recipe calls for palm kernel oil, but I don’t see it on the Brambleberry Oil list. I see peach kernel oil and I see just plan palm oil.. So can I use just the plan palm oil or is the peach or is it palm kernel flakes? Thanks…
Anne-Marie says
Palm Kernel Flakes is what you need =) https://www.brambleberry.com/Palm-Kernel-Flakes-P3446.aspx
Mandy says
Hi Anne-Marie
I use only olive oil and have been going to medium trace with oxides.
Of late my soap has been cracking on top when drying in the moulds.
What is going on?
help please
Anne-Marie says
Sounds like heat related cracking – does it look like this? http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/successful-coconut-milk-batch-2/ That’s a heat related crack – dropping the temperatures would help OR insulating better so that the top doesn’t cool off as quickly.
MistyH says
Thank you SO MUCH Anne-Marie for replying. You are SO great! LOVE all your blogs and videos and EVERYTHING! =) Thanks!
Anne-Marie says
Hi,
The INCI does have a preservative in it and it does use a preservative for
the small amount. It does not have the full preservative for the 8 ounce
size so you’ll want to use a preservative at 1% in your distilled 8 oz. size
of water as well.
The soap will lighten up with the titanium dioxide but definitely won’t be
perfectly white – but it will get lighter. =)
Hudsonvalleysoap says
Anne-Marie this is wonderful! I have a question – I am using your Impatien Pink High pH LabColor. The INCI mentions Germaben II. Do I still need to use it at the 1%? Also, I notice that the soap has a slight tannish coloring. Can I lighten it in the beginning with titanium dioxide? Thank you so much!
Anne-Marie says
I’ve never gotten a brittle trace like you’re talking about. I’ve gotten a soap that sheers when I use oils that are too hard but I’ve not experienced what you’re describing with regards to trace. I generally trace heavy for all my layers and then cut for weeks/months afterwards (especially if they end up at Otion for sale!) =)
Anne-Marie says
Palm Kernel and Palm are tough to replace. The best is Lard but many people aren’t thrilled about Lard in their soap. You could just leave it out entirely and go for Coconut Oil/Olive Oil/superfatting oil. You’ll give up a bit in hardness, size of bubbles and duration of lather though only the die hard soap fanatics will notice the difference. =)
MMXI says
What is “warm gel phase”? For a time, I was experiencing very hard and brittle soap that shattered whenever I tried cutting it after unmolding. Troubleshooting suggested that I was achieving too much trace. When I started pouring on softer trace, my brittle soap problem went away! How do I avoid brittle soap if I mix this to hard trace?
Anne-Marie says
I always let my CP soap cure for a minimum of 4 weeks before giving it away or selling it. =)
sandy says
Hi-
Can you tell me how long you let this cure?
MistyH says
I LOVE ALL the soaps you make on here. I’m beginning to try my OWN CP soap making and would LOVE to start w/ some of these soaps here that you’ve suggested (like this one, the hot cocoa one, the beer stout) BUT am wondering, can anything be used to substitute the palm and palm kernel oils?? THANKS!
Anne-Marie says
Phenonip tends to be oil soluble so yes, mix it with Polysorbate 20 to be on the safe side.
How does the soap look now that it’s cut?
Isoapy says
I just made the soap with the blue, it’s in the oven now, so hopefully I will have beautiful soap when I cut it tomorrow morning! One other question I had, when I dilute my other labcolors that I have, can I use Phenonip? That’s all I have. I do have polysorbate 20 if I need to use it like you suggested with optiphen. Thank you!
Anne-Marie says
Let me know if you try it and how it works out for you =)
Mónica says
Fantastic as always. I am charmed with the explanation. I want to try also.
Thank you for teaching us how it is done.
Besos (Kisses).
Karen says
This looks super fun!! I admire your creative soaps that you come up with!! Someday, I am going to attempt some soap!
Anne-Marie says
I can’t wait until you do! You are going to LOVE IT. It is soooooo addicting.
Anne-Marie says
It is a Kitchen-Aid bowl. You can buy it from their site under Mixer/Accessories for $75.
Love it soooooo much.
kindredscents says
Those look really cool! One day I want to give CP soap a try.
Lesley says
Ooh this looks awesome! I’m just about finally ready to start soaping, I’m just missing my final piece of equipment – a pot! The glass bowl you use is awesome with the spout and everything. Do you mind sharing where you got it? Is it a Kitchen-Aid bowl? (perhaps you’ve already addressed this in previous posts…sorry if I’m asking a redundant question!)
Anne-Marie says
It’s all about the temperature and fragrance/EO interplay – blend hotter than you usually do (like 140) and insulate.
Now, this can backfire (see http://soap-queen.blogspot.com… and http://soap-queen.blogspot.com… so really know your fragrance well (is it a super heater? Hint: if it’s a spice, it usually will gel warmer than a plain vanilla) and plan accordingly.
Anne-Marie says
Thanks =)
Anne-Marie says
It is definitely one of my top ten fave fragrances right now…
Anne-Marie says
Optiphen can be used in aqueous (water) based solutions but tends not to mix very well. If you use Optiphen, I find a mixture of Optiphen and Polysorbate 20 at 1:1 helps it mix in better.
Anne-Marie says
I can’t wait to hear what you think when it comes out. I can see a rainbow really working beautifully with non bleeding colors too.
Anne-Marie says
Yes, oven process away so long as your mold uses hardware and not glue to hold it together.
Fresh Snow – LOVE LOVE LOVE – and blue would be great. Yes, the Surplus Blue Labcolor IS already diluted. And don’t be surprised if you end up using MORE drops than I used. Just remember, what you see is what you get MINUS about a 15% color pop thanks to a really strong gel phase – so if it looks too light (see the final photos versus the final pour photos – that’s the color POP I’m talking about), don’t hesitate to add few more drops.
Anne-Marie says
The scale is our friend …
Anne-Marie says
No, no extra water – just leave it the way I have it. The fragrance oil isn’t really a “water” and the amount of water in the colorant is too small to make a difference. I LOVE the recipe; can’t wait to hear what you think of it (sans scent and color) =)
Anne-Marie says
Easy easy to do – just as long as you weigh out those layers – and really, it’s not all that bad because the whole process is thrilling =)
Anne-Marie says
Thank you – it was fun to make.
Aldera says
Beauty soap))
Statii tir says
The soap looks great. And the way you described the steps is like making a cake. I don’t know about trying it, because I’m not a super pacient woman, but congrats for trying and it looks amazing.
Karen says
Anne-Marie – it looks great. I’m focussing on no scent and no colour right now – if I make this recipe do I need to add more oil or water to make up for the colour and scent? thx
Amanda says
Wonderful idea!
Isoapy says
Love the soap, I can’t wait to try it! 2 questions though. Since a strong gel phase makes the color pop more, is it O.K. to oven process it in the mold? And second question, I love the fresh snow fragrance, but I would like to use the blue labcolor. The one I have was the “surplus blue labcolor.” Is it already diluted? It doesn’t say on the bottle, and since it’s gone, it’s not on the website any more, so I don’t know if I should dilute it!
Thanks!!!
kellyanntaylor says
That turned out SO perfect no one would have ever known it was measured so minutely and layered so carefully. This is a must try! Thank you so much for sharing this technique!
Linda says
I have several of your lab colors, not tried yet but now I will. One question can I substitute Optiphen for GermabenII? I don’t care for Germaben
Teresa Callahan says
Lovely!
The notes in “Fresh Snow” are intriguing….I am a sucker for heliotrope.
x
SharonsPJ says
Simply…….BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!
Midnightstorm6 says
This is beautiful! I can’t wait to try it, although I’ll be using a different color than the magenta shown above. Thanks for sharing this.
I do have one question: How do I control whether my soap achieves a warm gel phase or a strong gel phase?