Adding fresh fruit and vegetable purees to cold process soap has long been a staple in the soapmaking community. Purees can add color and skin-loving properties to the bar. In addition, purees are great from a marketing standpoint. One of my favorite purees for cold process soap is avocado. It gives the soap a luxurious feeling. Unlike some additives, avocados do not contain a large amount of sugar. Adding sugars (like those found in fruit) to cold process soap can cause excess heat, which can make the soap difficult to work with. For example, adding honey can cause an extreme gel phase, as seen in the Adding Honey to Cold Process Soap blog post.
For this recipe, I added a full 3 ounces of avocado pulp, in addition to French green clay and spirulina powder for color. Spearmint essential oil gives these bars a crisp and refreshing scent. After achieving a nice thick texture, I mounded the top of the soap toward the center, created texture and sprinkled poppy seeds on top for decoration. I decided to place this soap into the fridge to prevent gel phase. The additional water from the avocado and clay + heat causes glycerin rivers. Believe me…it happened! You can see my first batch of this soap without a water discount and after gel phase at the bottom of this tutorial. Learn more about glycerin rivers and how to prevent them in this post.
After making this soap, I was perusing the #SoapShare hashtag on Instagram (one of my favorite ways to spend precious downtime) I stumbled upon this beautiful Listea Poppyseed Mead Sea Mud Soap by sassy_soaps_and_such. I was shocked how similar the two designs were. Isn’t it crazy how that happens sometimes? I love Rhonda’s spin on a similar idea, with a layer on the bottom. Great minds really do think alike!
This recipe does contain a water discount to take into consideration the extra water that is added to the recipe. This recipe adds water in three different ways. First, 1.5 ounces of water is added to create the avocado puree. Then 2 Tbs. (about 1 ounce) of water is added to the clay to help create a dispersion. In addition, the avocado itself contains water. It’s tricky to know for sure how much water the 3 ounces of avocado contains, so I estimated about .5 ounces. That’s a total of 3 ounces of added water. The full amount of water in this recipe is 11.5 ounces. To get the amount below, I subtracted the 3 ounces which is 8.5 and used a water discount of 15% which is 7.2 ounces. With the added water, that’s a water discount of about 11% (7.2 ounces + 3 = 10.2).
What You’ll Need:
Note: This recipe has a 3% superfat to compensate for the added oils in the avocado. It also has a large water discount to compensate from the water in the avocado puree and the clay dispersion.
10″ Silicone Loaf Mold
3.5 oz Avocado Butter (10%)
5.2 oz. Avocado Oil (15%)
1 oz. Castor Oil (3%)
7.7 oz. Coconut Oil (22%)
8.8 oz. Olive Oil (25%)
8.8 oz. Palm Oil (25%)
5 oz. Sodium Hydroxide Lye
7.2 oz. Distilled Water
3 oz. Fresh Avocado + 1.5 oz. Distilled Water
Spirulina Powder
French Green Clay
Poppy Seeds
2 oz. Spearmint Essential Oil
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SAFETY FIRST: Suit up for safe handling practices! That means goggles, gloves and long sleeves. Make sure kids, pets, and other distractions and tripping hazards are out of the house or don’t have access to your soaping space. Always soap in a well-ventilated area.
COLOR PREP: Disperse 1 tablespoon of the spirulina powder into 1 tablespoon lightweight liquid oil such as sunflower or sweet almond oil. Use a mini mixer to get rid of any clumps. Then mix 1 tablespoon French green clay into 2 tablespoons distilled water. The mixture will become quite thick. Clay is dispersed in water due to help avoid cracking due to the clay’s tendency to absorb moisture.
PUREE PREP: In a small container, measure out the 3 ounces of fresh avocado pulp (no skin). Add 1.5 ounces of distilled water, and use a stick blender, food processor or blender to blend until smooth. Set aside.
ONE: Slowly and carefully add the lye to the water and gently stir until the lye has fully dissolved and the liquid is clear. Set aside to cool.
TWO: Melt and combine the coconut oil, avocado oil, avocado butter, olive oil, castor oil and palm oils (remember to fully melt then mix your entire container of palm oil before portioning). Once the lye water and the oils have cooled to 110-120 degrees or below (and are ideally within 10 degrees of each other), add the lye water to the oils and stick blend until thin trace. If you’d like a harder bar of soap that releases faster from the mold, you can add sodium lactate to the cooled lye water. Use 1 teaspoon of sodium lactate per pound of oils in the recipe. For this recipe, you’d add about 2 teaspoons sodium lactate.
THREE: Once the mixture has reached a thin trace, add the avocado puree, all the dispersed spirulina powder and all the dispersed French green clay.
FOUR: Stick blend the additives into the soap until completely smooth. Add the spearmint essential oil, and stick blend using short pulses until incorporated. You don’t need to worry too much about the batter becoming thick. In fact, you want a nice thick trace! But, the soap still needs to be workable.
FIVE: Pour all the batter into the mold, concentrating the batter in the center.
SIX: Use a spoon or spatula to begin mounding the soap batter into the center of the mold, creating a peak. If the soap is not thick enough to hold a shape, allow it to sit for several minutes to firm up slightly. Continue to build the soap in the center until you’ve created a large peak.
SEVEN: Once you’re happy with the height of the soap, use the side of a spoon to create divots/texture into the peaks. You could also use a fork for this step. There is no right or wrong way to do this, just keep playing with the soap until you’re happy with the look.
EIGHT: Once you’re happy with the top, sprinkle poppy seeds in the center of the peak. Spritz the top of the soap with 99% isopropyl alcohol to avoid soda ash. Then, place the soap in the fridge (or freezer) for 4-24 hours. Doing so will help prevent gel phase and glycerin rivers. If you soaped at slightly higher temperatures I would recommend placing it in the freezer. Remove from the fridge or freezer and allow the soap to harden in the mold at room temperature for 3-4 days. Unmold, and cut into bars. Allow to cure for 4-6 weeks.
Below is an example of this recipe gelled vs. un-gelled. The soap in the top right is the soap shown in this tutorial, which was placed in the fridge. The soap in the bottom left is the same recipe without a water discount, and the soap was insulated to promote gel phase. The first time I made this soap, I insulated the soap because I wanted the spirulina to be vibrant. But, I ended up with glycerin rivers. The color is fine, but I actually prefer the lighter shade on top. Of course this is just personal preference, and both soaps will feel fantastic.
The soap in the top right was placed in the fridge to keep cool, while the soap on the bottom left was insulated and went through gel phase.
UPDATE 7/6/2016: Below is a photo of the soap, almost exactly 5 months after being made. As you can see, the green has faded to a very light shade. This soap was not exposed to light, and stored in a cool, dry place. Unfortunately, there is not a way to prevent the colorants from fading.
Have you used purees in cold process soap before? If you’re looking for ideas, my new book Pure Soapmaking has several recipes using purees, including tomato, cucumber and more!
- 10″ Silicone Loaf Mold
- 3.5 oz Avocado Butter
- 5.2 oz. Avocado Oil
- 1 oz. Castor Oil
- 7.7 oz. Coconut Oil
- 8.8 oz. Olive Oil
- 8.8 oz. Palm Oil
- 5 oz. Sodium Hydroxide Lye
- 7.2 oz. Distilled Water
- 3 oz. Fresh Avocado + 1.5 oz. Distilled Water
- Spirulina Powder
- French Green Clay
- Poppy Seeds
- 2 oz. Spearmint Essential Oil
- Slowly and carefully add the lye to the water and gently stir until the lye has fully dissolved and the liquid is clear. Set aside to cool.
- Melt and combine the coconut oil, avocado oil, avocado butter, olive oil, castor oil and palm oils (remember to fully melt then mix your entire container of palm oil before portioning). Once the lye water and the oils have cooled to 120 degrees or below (and are ideally within 10 degrees of each other), add the lye water to the oils and stick blend until thin trace. If you’d like a harder bar of soap that releases faster from the mold, you can add sodium lactate to the cooled lye water. Use 1 teaspoon of sodium lactate per pound of oils in the recipe. For this recipe, you’d add about 2 teaspoons sodium lactate.
- Once the mixture has reached a thin trace, add the avocado puree, all the dispersed spirulina powder and all the dispersed French Green Clay.
- Stick blend the additives into the soap until completely smooth. Add the spearmint essential oil, and stick blend using short pulses until incorporated. You don’t need to worry too much about the batter becoming thick. In fact, you want a nice thick trace! But, the soap still needs to be workable.
- Pour all the batter into the mold, concentrating the batter in the center.
- Use a spoon or spatula to begin mounding the soap batter into the center. If the soap is not thick enough to hold a shape, allow it to sit for several minutes to firm up slightly. Continue to build the soap in the center until you’ve created a large peak.
- Once you’re happy with the height of the soap, use the side of a spoon to create divots/texture into the peaks. There is no right or wrong way to do this, just keep playing with the soap until you’re happy with the look.
- Once you’re happy with the top, sprinkle poppy seeds in the center of the peak. Spritz the top of the soap with 99% isopropyl alcohol to avoid soda ash. Then, place the soap in the fridge or freezer for 4-24 hours. Doing so will help prevent gel phase and glycerin rivers. Remove from the fridge and allow the soap to harden in the mold at room temperature for 3-4 days. Unmold, and cut into bars.
Vanessa says
I would love to try this soap! I want to do a spearmint or peppermint soap for the holidays, however, I have heard/read a lot about many essential oil’s fragrance tend to fade or even dissappear completely in cold process soap, how did/does the spearmint fragrance hold up? Any suggestions about how I’d be able to anchor the scent so it doesn’t fade?
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
Spearmint and peppermint are quite strong, so you don’t have to worry about them fading. They smell sweet and minty and you only need a little bit in your soap to make an impact.
Citrus essential oils can fade in cold process soap, but you can anchor them with a deeper scent like patchouli. Learn more in this post on how to prevent scent fading: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-prevent-scent-fading-in-soap/
Vanessa says
Thank you very much for the answer! It is much appreciated!
Shawna says
Hi Kelsey!
I’m a new soaper and want to substitute the Palm in this recipe. Any ideas of what to use?
Thanks,
Shawna
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
Palm oil adds some great firmness to your soap, and there is no direct replacement for it. You can add certain oils and butters to help firm your soap up though. For instance, adding a hard butter, like cocoa butter up to 15%, can harden the bars. You can also add coconut oil or tallow up to 33%.
Read more about common oils and what properties they add to soap here: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/free-beginners-guide-to-soapmaking-common-soapmaking-oils/
This post on substituting oils has some great information too: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-substitute-oil-in-cold-process-recipes/
Krisha says
Hi Kelsey,
I’m thinking of using spinach as a colorant for my cold process soap recipe. Have you had experience using spinach? I thought about pureeing it and using a cheese cloth to get drain the water and use the green water as the my lye water.
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
We haven’t done a lot of testing with spinach but you can give it a try. I’m thinking it may turn brown, so it’s definitely worth a small test batch. You may want to try the puree and spinach powder to see if one works better.
Tami says
do you have a similar recipe for melt and pour?
Kelsey with Bramble Berry says
We don’t – fresh ingredients like avocado don’t work well in melt and pour because they can go bad in just a few weeks. Learn more about that here: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/purees-fresh-ingredients-melt-pour-soap/
You can make a bar using the clay, spirulina, and fragrance though, that would feel nice on the skin. Learn how to work with clays and spirulina in melt and pour here: https://www.soapqueen.com/bramble-berry-news/sunday-night-spotlight-brazilian-clay/
And find out how much scent to use with our Fragrance Calculator: http://www.brambleberry.com/Pages/Fragrance-Calculator.aspx
Florence says
Hi Kelsey!
I just made this soap last night, and added the lye water to the oils at about 110°f. Of course I leave the sodium lactate out and didn’t realize until it was already in the mold.
I took it out of the fridge this morning and it still feels really soft, especially the corners. I’m getting kind of worried. It hasn’t been 24 hours yet, so I’ll give it 48 before I call it a loss. It’s also really warm in my soaping room. I’m hoping if I post my altered recipe you might be able to help me understand where I might have gone wrong? I gave it a 11% water discount, and added 3oz of avocado plus 1oz of water. I added 1tsp of green oxide, 1tsp of allantoin powder and used 2tbs of olive oil from the recipe to disperse.
Sodium Hydroxide 103.93 g
Percentage of liquid 247.50 g
Total 351.43 g
Avocado Oil. 112.50 g 15.0 %
Castor Oil. 150.00 g 20.0 %
Coconut Oil 150.00 g 20.0 %
Hemp Seed Oil. 75.00 g 10.0 %
Olive Oil. 187.50 g 25.0 %
Pumpkin Seed Oil. 75.00 g 10.0 %
Oils & Fats 750.00 g
TOTAL BATCH YIELD 1,101.43 g
Kelsey says
That is totally normal – soap usually takes about 3-5 days to come out of the mold, especially with a palm-free recipe with lots of soft oils. Castor oil especially can make that soap feel softer. I would recommend waiting about 4 days, then testing the soap. If it’s still too soft, let it sit a few more days and try again.
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Karen says
I made this soap last 3 days ago and just cut it. I followed the instructions and I put the mold in the fridge for 6 hours after pouring. The outside looks amazing and it smells great but when I cut it, I have dark large circles in the center of each piece indicating it went through gel phase. What else can I do to prevent this from happening?
Kelsey says
Lower temperatures can help – you can soap around 95-100F. I would recommend at least 95F. If it goes much colder, you can get “false trace.” That happens when the butter and hard oils start to solidify before the batch is emulsified. Read more about that here: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/spot-prevent-false-trace/
It can help to keep the soap in the freezer for a full 24 hours. You may find a gel ring happens even then (vegetables can be tricky in soap), but it should be smaller or not noticeable if it’s kept in the freezer longer.
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Karen says
Thanks. I’ll try that next time. I love how it smells and I’m sure it will be lovely in the shower.
Kelsey says
Absolutely, it feels nice and creamy. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Daniel says
Would EDTA prevent colors to fade?
Kelsey says
We haven’t tried that, but I don’t believe so. Preservatives protect against mold and bacteria in recipes like lotion, but they don’t extend the shelf life of prevent color fading. To do that, you can use a pigment like Green Chrome: https://www.brambleberry.com/Green-Chrome-Oxide-Pigment-P4042.aspx
Learn more in this post on getting vibrant color in soap: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-get-vibrant-colors-in-soap/
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Daniel says
thank you Kelsey!
Clara says
I had a question. I am making a variation of this soap and I have used a lye calculator to calculate it. I am making 32.41 oz. of soap containing: 3.15 oz. of lye and it says 7.26 oz. of water. If I just add 6.26 oz. of water with the lye and take out one oz. for my avocado puree that I will add at the end will that work?
Thanks! Please respond ASAP.
Kelsey says
Yep, that sounds just fine. That will prevent the soap from getting too wet.
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Sheryl Potter says
I love your site! I’ve been soaping for 3 months and you have helped me a bunch. I’ve made this recipe and got a gel ring and I really liked the color. Do you think it would be ok if I just insulated the next batch and encouraged a gel? Seems like that might be easier than trying to prevent one.
Kelsey says
You definitely can encourage gel if you like that look. Keep a pretty close eye on the soap, otherwise it can get too hot and do odd things like crack. Check on it a few times in the first hour to make sure it looks just fine. You can see the signs of overheating here: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/when-to-insulate-handmade-soap/
If it is getting too hot, pop it in the fridge or freezer for 5-24 hours.
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Susan says
What are the benefits of adding pureed fruit and vegetables? Will it make my skin softer and not so dried feeling after using soap?
Kelsey says
Pureed vegetables and fruit can add color, lather, and moisturizing benefits to your recipe, depending on which one you add. For instance, avocado adds nice moisturizing properties and lovely green color. Learn more about purees and how to incorporate them here: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-add-purees-to-cold-process-soap/
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Katrina Musgrave says
Hello. Iam newer to soap making and have made several soaps with natural colorants that have been dispersed and have never done a water discount. My question is what happens if you dont do a water discount on this recipe? Also I only have spirulina, not the clay, so how do you think it will effect the color of my soap? Thanks so much!
Kelsey says
Without a water discount, the soap will take longer to unmold and cure. It will still feel nice on the skin, you’ll just have to wait longer. Also, without the clay, the color of the soap will be different. It adds a soft green hue to the bars. I would recommend making a small test batch without the discount and clay to see what you think. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Rick says
How well/long does the spearmint hold up as the sole EO?
Kelsey says
Spearmint is nice and strong, so it holds up well! The bars we made about a year ago still smell minty fresh. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Catherine says
Why no Sodium Lactate in this recipe?
Catherine says
Also, how do I convert this recipe to 5 pounds? Is there a tutorial for resizing recipes?
Kelsey says
There is sodium lactate in this recipe! We recommend 2 teaspoons (in step 2). Sorry for any confusion. Also, we do have a handy post for resizing recipes. You can find that here: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-resize-cold-process-soap-recipes/
That post was created when we had our old Lye Calculator, so it does look a bit different. However, it still works the same. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Andrea Sisco Pike says
Please disregard my question about the French green clay. I found the answer. Chemo brain. Yup. So sorry.
Kelsey says
Oh no worries Andrea! I hope you get to feeling better soon. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Andrea Sisco Pike says
I’m wondering how much french green clay is used in this recipe (with how much water)?
Thank you.
Kelsey says
You disperse 1 teaspoon of the French Green Clay into 2 tablespoons of distilled water and add all of that at trace! 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Kassandra says
Is it possible to leave out the Spirulina Powder for this recipe? Does anything need to be adjusted by doing so? Does it affect the final color as well? Please help! Thank you 🙂
Kelsey says
Without the spirulina, this soap will be a lighter grayish/green color. It will look a lot like the soap pictured above that’s 5 months old. If you want a bit brighter green, you can add Green Chrome Oxide. I would recommend mixing 1 teaspoon of the Green Chrome into 1 tablespoon of lightweight oil, then add that 1 dispersed teaspoon at a time until you get a color you like.
Green Chrome Oxide Pigment: https://www.brambleberry.com/Green-Chrome-Oxide-Pigment-P4042.aspx
You can also leave the color as is! It will be a lovely pale green. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Ginger Robertson says
Can you still use this same recipe, but substitute the avocado puree for say, pumpkin puree, tomato puree, etc and still keep the same water discount?
I would LOVE for the lye calculator to be able to calculate in water discounts in the future for number challenged folk like myself. LOL
Kelsey says
You can use other purees in this recipe! Each vegetable has a different water content, so it may need a slightly different discount. For instance, pumpkin puree and avocado puree have a similar water content. Cucumber, on the other hand, has a high water content. So, you may need to increase the discount to 15% to account for that water!
Read more about working with fruit and vegetable purees here: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-add-purees-to-cold-process-soap/
Thanks for your Lye Calculator suggestion. I passed that along to our website team. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Ginger Robertson says
What would be the conversions for the recipe to fit the 5 lb mold?
The water/puree amount is confusing to me, LOL
Kelsey says
We recommend about 1 ounce of avocado per pound of soap! So, that would be 5 ounces for a 5 pound mold. You’ll need about 2.5 ounces of water to get that pureed nicely. We did an 11% water discount for this recipe. So, when you get the final water amount, multiply that by .89 to get the discount. 🙂
Also, we have a really helpful post that shows you how to resize your recipes using our Lye Calculator! You can find that recipe here: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-resize-cold-process-soap-recipes/
We have updated the Lye Calculator since that post. It looks a bit different, but it works the same way!
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Lu Jenks says
You say, “per pound of soap”, does it mean per pound of oils + lye water? Thank you!
Kelsey says
That is correct! We recommend 1 ounce of avocado per pound of soap, which includes oils and lye water. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Deb says
I really want to make this soap but my mold only holds about 30 oz and since I haven’t gotten into water discounting yet I can’t figure out the water amount for the 30 oz. Can someone help me out?
Thanks!
Kelsey says
Hi Deb!
I can definitely help you out! We have an awesome post that shows you how to resize cold process recipes: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-resize-cold-process-soap-recipes/
For the water discount, it will depend on how much avocado you add. For a 30 ounce recipe, I would recommend 1.5 ounces of avocado + .5 oz. of distilled water. Then, subtract that amount from your water. The avocado and water puree will add extra moisture, so you want to account for that in your batch. After you have the subtracted amount, you can multiply it by .85 (that gives you a 1% discount). That will give you the water amount to use. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Deb says
Thanks Kelsey I just figured it out how much water I need. It’s pretty easy once you know how! But just curious, how did you come up with the numbers for the amount of avocado and water? Also, I use soapcalc, do I need to change the water percentage to oils from 38% to a lower percentage? I superfatted at 3% (like in the recipe) so I changed it (on soapcalc) from the normal 5% correct? Sorry for all these questions!
Deb says
Kelsey, I just used BB’s calculator and the water amt was almost the same as what I figured out from your directions so I used that and it’s printing. Still curious about the numbers for the avocado and .5 distilled water!
Thanks!
Kelsey says
Hi Deb!
Just to clarify, are you wanting to know how to find out how much avocado and water to add to the batch? Or how we calculated the water amount for them? Thanks! 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Deb says
Sorry I took so long to reply. Yes, how you got the numbers for the avocado and distilled water
Thanks
Kelsey says
Absolutely! We like to add about an ounce of avocado per pound of soap. We find that gives us a nice creamy texture. The 1.5 ounces of water helps make the avocado a bit more smooth and easier to work with. You can add more or less based on personal preference! The 1 ounce per pound of soap is a good place to start. 🙂
Adding the avocado and water to the soap will add extra water. To keep the soap from getting too wet, we subtracted that avocado amount (we estimated about 3 ounces) from the main water amount. Then, we discounted that number (11.5-3=8.5) by 15%. That will help account for any excess water and prevent glycerin rivers!
Read more about working with purees here: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-add-purees-to-cold-process-soap/
And more about water discounting here: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/water-discounting-cold-process-soap-how-why/
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Mary says
I made this soap about 3 – 4 weeks ago. People are still coming into my house and saying, “Gee, it smells like gum in here … or minty!” The fragrance is amazing!!! I soaped at the lower temps (100-110) and put mine in the freezer for 24 hours. I have a very cold freezer that turns ice cream into cement and still got a small gel ring. Does it bother me? Not one bit. I had to test a bar this morning and I absolutely love it. I’m not looking at that little gel ring when I’m in the shower. I just love this soap. Thanks again, Brambleberry!!!
Kelsey says
Yay, so glad to hear that soap turned out well Mary! Spearmint is one of my favorite essential oils. Enjoy your nice minty bars. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Yeka says
Same thing happened to me…The soap is absolutely gorgeous though I soaped at 105 F and still got a gel ring…. Should I consider maybe soaping at a lower temperature? even room temperature….. ? Thanks for your help!
Kelsey says
You can soap around 95-100F! I would recommend at least 95F. If it goes much colder, you can get “false trace.” That happens when the butter and hard oils start to solidify before the batch is emulsified. Read more about that here: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/spot-prevent-false-trace/
It can help to keep the soap in the freezer for a full 24 hours. You may find a gel ring happens even then (vegetables can be tricky in soap), but it should be smaller or not noticeable if it’s kept in the freezer longer. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Stef says
HI,
I’m a little shocked by the gel phase photo! Can you give me any more insight into what happened… did the colors separate? Do you know why the rectangle formed? and is this a common occurrence? I’m debating between gel and no gel for some of my more decorative ideas and this definitely just put the fear in me :p
Thank you
Kelsey says
Hi Stef!
The rectangle in the photo is actually a design we did intentionally! We used our Multi-Pour Sectioning Tool for the 10″ Silicone Loaf Mold and poured some white soap in the middle. Sorry for any confusion!
Multi-Pour Tool: https://www.brambleberry.com/Multi-Pour-Tool-for-10-Silicone-Loaf-P6437.aspx
In general, gel phase will make the colors a bit more vibrant. On the picture above, you can see a tiny little sliver on the side of the soap that’s a bit lighter than the inside. That’s partial gel phase. Learn more about gel phase here: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/gel-phase/
And how temperature affects soap here: https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/back-to-basics-how-temperature-affects-cold-process-soap/
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
stef says
whew! shew.. thank you. that makes more sense… sorry i fit was in the reading and I missed it. :p
Kelsey says
You’re welcome Stef! 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Rhoonda McClain says
I love this soap! I’ve been wanting to add avocado to a batch but am always afraid that it would accelerate trace too much but I’m definitely going to try it now. My “twin in-the-mold soap to yours” is an awesome bar that I’ve been using on my face. I love the dead sea mud!! Its amazing that as much as they looked alike in the mold they had totally different ingredients and the spearmint eo you used has got to smell awesome!! Thanks so much for the tutorial and the link to my soap!
Kelsey says
So glad you love the soap Rhonda! We love yours as well, it looks fantastic. Great minds for sure. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Tray says
I absolutely love the look and components of this soap, especially the avocado and I love avocado!
<3 <3 <3
I'm new to soapmaking and have made a few batches of the Back to Basics- Simple and Gentle CP soap with different FOs and some were successful and some not. Still, it hasn't stopped me from making soap!
I was wondering if there are any other butter substitute I can use besides the AB? I live in Malaysia and I've not found a store that sells it.
Also, is it possible to use half of the amount of Avocado oil and use Sweet Almond oil for the other half?
I can't wait to try this!!!
Kelsey says
Hi Tray!
Thank you so much, glad you’re loving the book! I’m an avocado lover as well. 🙂
If you can find coffee butter, that is a great substitute for avocado butter. They both have a softer creamy feeling. If not, you can use shea butter or mango butter. They’re a bit more firm so they’ll make the soap more firm overall. Also, you can use a mixture of avocado and sweet almond! They feel very similar. 🙂
A small test batch would be helpful to see if you like the way it feels! Remember to run the recipe through the Lye Calculator after any substitutions: https://www.brambleberry.com/Pages/Lye-Calculator.aspx
This post on substituting oils is very helpful as well: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-substitute-oil-in-cold-process-recipes/
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Coffee butter: https://www.brambleberry.com/Coffee-Butter-P3444.aspx
Shea butter: https://www.brambleberry.com/Shea-Butter-P3220.aspx
Mango butter: https://www.brambleberry.com/Mango-Butter-P3221.aspx
Robin says
Hi Kelsey,
I have a few question’s about this recipe.
First thing this recipe looks so easy to make and is gorgeous!!!!
But anyway, can I make this recipe without a fragrance of EO?
My husband and I have sensitive skin and are skin can’t handle fragrances and EO so I would like to leave it out, but if I do leave it out do I have to change anything in the recipe?
And the other question is how is the feel of this bar soap ( is it not drying to the skin ) also does this lather well?
I can’t wait to make this, and give some away!!!
Kelsey says
Hi Robin!
You can definitely leave the essential oil out of this recipe! It won’t affect the feel of the soap at all. Unscented soap is a great option for people with sensitive skin. 🙂
These bars feel great on the skin. The avocado puree gives them a creamy, luxurious feeling, and the castor oil gives them a really nice lather. I can’t wait for you to give them a try!
Clays typically absorb moisture, so the clay in this recipe can feel a little drying on sensitive skin. It’s such a small amount I don’t think it will be drying, but you can leave it out of this recipe to be on the extra safe side. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Robin says
Thank you Kelsey,
I’m so excited about this recipe because it looks like it would be a nice simple recipe, plus good for sensitive skin!!!
I forgot to ask about the bowl she used for this recipe, can I buy a 2 quart bowl from bramble berry?
Also I read in another web site that you can put the lye water into the oils when the temperature goes down to 90 degrees?
After reading about gel phase, I thought that it might be better to pour the lye water in at 90 degrees instead of 110?
And another question, how long does it usually take for the lye water to cool down ( hours, minutes)?
Kelsey says
Hi Robin!
We do sell the 2 Quart Bowls on BrambleBerry.com! You can also find them at a department store like Target or a kitchen supply store. 🙂
2 Quart Mixing Bowl: https://www.brambleberry.com/2-Quart-Glass-Mixing-Bowl-P5789.aspx
We like to have our lye and oils between 100-130F. We typically soap right around 115-120F. We find those temperatures work well because everything stays nice and melted and you have some time to work. You may find different temperatures work for you, but starting at 120F is a good idea!
Then, to prevent gel phase, we recommend popping this soap in the fridge or freezer for 5-24 hours. Read more about gel phase here: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/when-to-insulate-handmade-soap/
Also, how long it takes the lye water to cool down depends on how hot your house is. We find it usually takes an hour or so in our Soap Lab. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Andrea says
I made this over the weekend. I used the gift White Rose fragrance i git from you. Smells lovely and made my house smell nice. One thing that came out weird, though. I took your advice and put the soap in the freezer, and it still looks like I git a tiny ring of gel….how do you control that?
I love your recipes
Kelsey says
Hi Andrea!
Thank you, glad you love the recipes! If the soap is quite hot, it can gel a little bit, even in the freezer. To prevent that, I would recommend lowering your lye and oil temperatures to around 110-120F. Then, keep that soap in the freezer for 24 hours. That should keep it nice and cool and prevent that ring.
Read more about gel phase here: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/gel-phase/
The good news is the gel ring is purely aesthetic, and the bars are still fine to use! The added avocado makes this recipe feel really luxurious. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Kathy says
I also got put mine in the freezer but still got that dang ring! I will make sure that my lye water is cooler next time.
Kelsey says
Oh no! I think soaping cooler (around 100-110F) will help. Leaving the soap in the freezer for the full 24 hours will keep it cool as well. Not to mention it’s still going to feel awesome on your skin! 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Martina says
Ok, I couldn’t resist, I made it too! 🙂
Not exactly the same- made it with a slightly different recipe, in a 5lb mold, with poppy seeds throughout, I did use Spirulina and Avocado, no clay, and for fragrance I used 50:50 mix of Spearmint EO and Sweet Grass FO. And I got to tell you, that combination is wonderful!!
I covered mine to gel, and I did make peaks like the ones above, I liked that. 🙂
Kelsey says
That scent combination sounds amazing – so nice and fresh! Is there a picture of it on your Instagram account? I’d love to take a look. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
andrea says
just made this soap. used the free “white rose”fragrance I got with my last order. Yummy!!! have to say one of the things i love about making soap is how nice the house smells afterwards. and i use the left-over soap to mop my floors. nice smell plus a bit extra fat on my tiles…nice.
now I can’t wait to see how it comes out. i put it in the freezer to prevent gelling. i had a somewhat over exuberant gel phase with my neem oil soap….
i love making soap
Kelsey says
Isn’t it just so fun? One of my favorite parts is cutting into the soap and seeing what pattern you created! If you get a picture of your soap cut, we’d love to see it on our Facebook page. 🙂
Bramble Berry Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BrambleBerry/
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
White Rose Fragrance Oil: https://www.brambleberry.com/White-Rose-Fragrance-Oil-P6124.aspx
Margene Crane says
Hi! I love your blog. Great resource for inspiration. I also order most of my soaping supplies from Bramble Berry. I have a question about labeling soap “Avocado + Spearmint” with the ingredient Avocado having used in the soap. By soap government guidelines can a soap be named with the ingredient that was used in it? Another example: “Rose Clay Soap”. Also…in this in this tutorial the description about adding avocado says it has “skin-loving properties”. Is this a phrase we can use in our descriptions on the soaps we sell? I just read the other article from a few days ago “A Surprise Visit from the FDA” on the rules and regulations when describing what a soap will do for your skin.
Kelsey says
Hi Margene!
Thank you so much, glad you love the blog!
In Marie Gale’s book, Soap and Cosmetic Labeling, she says if the name of a product has one of the ingredients – like avocado – it may be mislabeled. For instance, if you say “Shea Butter Lotion,” it can be misleading as the lotion has more than just shea butter. That being said, there are lots of companies (small and big) that say cocoa butter lotion, silk handmade soap, etc. So, it is a bit of a gray area.
To be on the safe side, you can leave the ingredients out of the title. You can also say something like, Handmade Soap with Avocado, that way they know avocado isn’t the only ingredient.
I would definitely recommend checking out Marie’s book. It has lots of great information that’s easy to read: https://www.brambleberry.com/Soap-And-Cosmetic-Labeling-Book-1-Book-P3663.aspx
If you want to sell your soap as a cosmetic, skin-loving is fine to use! Cosmetics are intended to beautify or alter ones appearance. For instance, moisturizing, cleansing, etc. A drug, on the other hand, is intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease. So if your soap is labeled as a cure for acne, it will need to be tested and regulated as a drug.
Read more about the difference between cosmetics and drugs here: http://www.soapqueen.com/business/understanding-fda-cosmetic-vs-drug-claims/
If you ever have any questions about labeling, feel free to contact the FDA. They can help clear things up for you. 🙂
FDA contact page: http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/ContactFDA/default.htm
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
A Surprise Visit from the FDA: http://www.soapqueen.com/business/a-surprise-visit-from-the-fda/
Renee says
I purchased the lye calculator and it doesn’t let me calculate for essential oils.
Kelsey says
Hi Renee!
Thanks so much for your order! The Lye Calculator determines the amount of liquid and lye needed for your batch. It doesn’t have a section for fragrance or essential usage rates though.
We do have a free Fragrance Calculator that determines essential oil usage rates! You can find that here: https://www.brambleberry.com/Pages/Fragrance-Calculator.aspx
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Lye Calculator: https://www.brambleberry.com/Pages/Lye-Calculator.aspx
Renee says
I’m looking to buy a wooden mold. what is the best size? I’m looking at a 2 or 4 lb.
Kelsey says
Hi Renee!
What size mold you buy depends on personal preference, and how much soap you make! Do you like to make bigger batches, or smaller ones every now and then? For bigger batches, I would recommend the 4 pound mold, for smaller batches the 2 pound works well. 🙂
2 lb. Wood Loaf Mold: https://www.brambleberry.com/2-lb-Wood-Loaf-Mold-P5239.aspx
4 lb. Wood Loaf Mold: https://www.brambleberry.com/ELF-4-lb-Wood-Loaf-Mold-P5240.aspx
This post has information on how to choose a mold and is really helpful: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/back-to-basics-how-to-choose-a-soap-mold/
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Sara says
I can’t wait to try this recipe, it looks great! Thank you for sharing with us!
Kelsey says
You’re welcome Sara! Have fun giving it a try. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Brigid McHugh says
I love the concept behind this one and think I may have to give it a go! I’m very particular about what oils/fats/butters I use so I’ll have to re-work the recipe (I never ever use palm)… Do you think I could directly replace the palm oil with another like sunflower? I’m not sure if this converts the same or not, I’ll probably have to put it all into the lye calculator… Great tutorial though!!
Kelsey says
Hi Brigid!
Palm oil adds some great firmness to your soap, and there is no direct replacement for it. You can add certain oils and butters to help firm your soap up though! For instance, adding a hard butter, like cocoa butter up to 15%, can harden the bars. You can also add coconut oil or tallow up to 33%. 🙂
Read more about common oils and what properties they add to soap here: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/free-beginners-guide-to-soapmaking-common-soapmaking-oils/
This post on substituting oils has some great information too: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/how-to-substitute-oil-in-cold-process-recipes/
Sodium lactate is helpful as well. It helps the bars unmold more quickly. You can add 1 tsp. of sodium lactate per pound of oils to your cooled lye water. Read more in the Sunday Night Spotlight: Sodium Lactate: http://www.soapqueen.com/bramble-berry-news/sunday-night-spotlight-sodium-lactate/
Here are some links to palm-free recipes you may like:
Palm Free Vertical Twist: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/palm-free-vertical-twist-tutorial/
Palm Free In The Pot Swirl: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/a-palm-free-in-the-pot-swirl/
Formulating Cold Process Recipes: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/formulating-cold-process-recipes/
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Rachael says
I, too, would like to know if I could substitute oils in this recipe! I would love to know if I could use one of your ready mixes with the avocado pulp. This is really awesome!
Kelsey says
Absolutely! The Quick Mixes would work really well for this recipe. I think Lots of Lather or Basic would be a great option as they are a bit firmer, but you can use Swirl Quick Mix as well. 🙂
Sunday Night Spotlight: Quick Mixes: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/sunday-night-spotlight-quick-mixes/
You can use the Quick Mixes as is, you don’t need to add any other oils to the mix. I would recommend water discounting to account for the extra water used in the clay and in the avocado. We subtracted 3 ounces from the main batch for the water mixed with the clay and avocado, then discounted that an additional 15%. Read more about water discounting here: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/water-discounting-cold-process-soap-how-why/
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Martina says
I have one more suggestion, since you are working on the website. I think it would be nice if people could post a small picture of the finished product next to their review. I love seeing pictures and it would be helpful to see when someone talks about discoloration or acceleration, how it came out for them.
Kelsey says
That’s a great idea Martina! I passed that along to our website team. Thanks for your suggestions. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Claire says
Lovely, deep color, so calm 🙂
Kelsey says
Thank you so much Claire! I love this color too. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry
Ericha Kemm says
Hi There,
Thanks so much for all the recipes you put out there for us! Sidenote- What happened to the Lye Calculator on Brambleberry.com? Up until this week there was an option to work in oil percentages, but now it’s vanished! I’m soooo sad about this! I used that function to recalculate batch weights for different containers. Can you please tell me what’s going on? – Sincerely, Ericha Kemm
Jeremy says
I agree! What happened to that?
Martina says
I agree too. Also you might want to consider adding superfat up to 20%, not just 10%. And, in general, I don’t like the new look of the website much.
P.S. I love the soap! Looks sooo creamy! 🙂
Toni says
That’s funny because I just sent an email about that too! Lol
Kelsey says
Hi Ericha and Jeremy!
We’re working on getting the percentages back on the Lye Calculator now! We are in the process of updating the website and working out any glitches, including the percentages. We are hoping to have everything back up and running soon. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Lye Calculator: https://www.brambleberry.com/Pages/Lye-Calculator.aspx
Also, thanks so much for your suggestion Martina! I’ll pass that along to our website team. 🙂
-Kelsey with Bramble Berry